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    The Western Sydney Wanderers faced in form Melbourne City in a clash in the Victorian capital in a match that would determine who would take the mantle of the mid-season Premiership favourite with a win in this top of the table six pointer. City ran out comprehensive 4-1 winners as the Wanderers had an early lead killed by some inept officiating, before Maclaren, Nabbout and Noone sealed the three points.

    The home side made an injury enforced change with Adrian Luna coming into the side for Nuno Reis, pushing Rostyn Griffiths back into defence. Carl Robinson rewarded the team which demolished Perth Glory by naming an unchanged starting 11 and bench as last Friday's 3-0 win. Daniel Wilmering, the Wanderers left back would be playing his first game after signing his 2 year professional contract mid-week. A 2-0 win for the Wanderers would propel them into first place on the ladder, albeit with the Central Coast Mariners having a game against last placed Melbourne Victory on Saturday.

    Melbourne City kicked off and spent the first 2 minutes camped on the edge of the Wanderers area. An early corner was punched away hard by Daniel Margush as the Wanderers struggled to maintain possession for more than 2 passes. Curtis Good hit a looping header from a corner that had Margush very worried with the ball just dropped onto the crossbar and out for a goal kick. Margush was called into action in the 10th minute as Andrew Nabbout controlled the ball with his arm, then cut inside onto his favoured right foot and blasted a shot at the near post that Margush turned away for a corner.

    The Wanderers finally had their opening attack of the night as Duke intercepted a wayward pass and released Bernie Ibini, the striker running down the right channel and attempted to loft the ball in the penalty area only to kick it well over the goal. Jamie Maclaren had his first take at goal, he beat his marker from a corner that landed in the area of the 6 yard box and gave Maclaren a free hader that he nodded wide.

    Western Sydney had an unlikely, against the run of play lead in the 21st minute through Bernie Ibini. With Melbourne in possession, Daniel Wilmering started a high press deep in the City half, and forced a turnover that Mitch Duke attacked the byline with, he then crossed to the far post where Ibini rose magnificently to stuff the header in the back of the net. The Wanderers had barely had a shot on target up to that point.

    Luna should have equalised moments later when he got on the end of a Craig Noone cross, at point blank range all the Uruguayan could manage was to stick it in Margush's breadbasket. The goal opened up the game, with the Wanderers finding their feet in the game. Wilmering was stepping up in attack again, finding high quality crosses at seemingly every turn, including providing another chance for Ibini that didn't have the power as the goal.

    Melbourne City had an assist from the referee for their equaliser in the 33rd minute. After a questionable foul on the edge of the box, the referee Alex King told the Wanderers players to get back, including Tate Russell who was in position to block any pass forward, allowed WSW to start to prepare a wall, only to allow an extremely quick free kick to be taken that had the Wanderers completely unprepared. Margush was in no man's land trying to prepare the wall and it sailed over his head.

    It bought back memories of Jarred Gillett stealing points from the Wanderers back in 2016 when unlike tonight, the Wanderers were allowed to play on, scored through Mark Bridge, only for Gillett to change his mind and call back the goal. Tonight the referee not only failed to call back the goal, he then went over to remonstrate with Carl Robinson who was rightly furious at both the officiating and Jamie Maclaren's diving antics.

    The City goal killed all the momentum the Wanderers had built into the game, with City knowing they had the ref on their side kept harrassing and fouling the Wanderers without punishment. City were handed numerous soft fouls. One of them Alex King finally decided he'd tell everyone to wait for his whistle, which was hardly useful for the Wanderers under the circumstances. The sides moved into the dressing rooms locked at 1-1 at half time.

    City took the lead in the 51st minute, a wide Noone cross making it's way to the far post and being blocked home by Andrew Nabbout. There were questions over a handball action but as usual for goals against the Wanderers, the VAR didn't bother checking it for more than a few seconds if at all. Noone scored City's third in the 55th minute, smashing a close range shot past Margush. 

    It went from bad to worse for the Wanderers, and the quality of the officiating in the 60th minute. With a bouncing ball in midfield, Mark Natta was shoulder charged recklessly by Nabbout who wasn't even close to make a challenge on the ball. The hard contact from shoulder to head sent Natta slamming into the pitch. Despite the obvious foul, likely concussion and clear yellow if not red card attack, Alex King let play continue without a foul or stopping the game for the injury. City attacked down the left wing and took advantage of the space in the middle, Luna tucking away a cross at the far post. The VAR responded not by calling back the goal for the foul on Natta, but instead for an offside.

    Maclaren scored the sealer in the 92nd minute to make it 4-0. A poor defensive clearance at a corner had the ball fall to Maclaren and he shot from near the penalty spot and thumped it into the roof of the net.

    As poor as the officiating was, the 2nd half was utterly pathetic from the Wanderers. The lack of effort was summed up by the reaction to Natta being floored. Carl Robinson on the bench seemed to show more emotion and anger, with the players on the pitch letting Nabbout pass without so much as a shove, a shoulders or a hard tackles to remind Nabbout that he was in a football game. City completely dominated the 2nd half, the attacking talent Robinson bought on the pitch couldn't even manage a single shot on target. It was just reminder of how much work the club still has to do to get back into the frame for a return to the top 2 and a Grand Final run.

    The Wanderers next game is against Brisbane Roar on Saturday April 3 with kick-off at 7:10pm. It is set for Dolphins Stadium in Queensland, assuming the pitch has recovered from the flooding that saw a match there this weekend postponed. 


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    Stats tell a story... City are playing at another level right now 

    29
     
    Shots
     
    7
    11
     
    On Target
     
    1
    7
     
    Fouls
     
    8
    17
     
    Corners
     
    2
    2
     
    Offsides
     
    0
    0
     
    Red Cards
     
    0
    1
     
    Yellow Cards
     
    1
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    Up until the equalizer we seemed still in the game . (Not saying we were good as we were not but we tried) after the 1-1 we gave up and it showed.

    I can understand CR keeping the same startup from last week because we won but now we lost .....time for the changes.

    Hope Nata is ok

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    7 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

    It wasn’t Eetswa 

    oursay

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    Reality.  We've played 14 games and won 6 of them. Apart from beating the Mariners (who are currently first) the other 5 wins have been Wellington (8th)  Western (9th) Perth (10th)  Newcastle (11th) and Victory (12th).

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    We wont be the last to lose 3 points to City , they are very good mature soccer team but I think we let the poor Refereeing decisions impact us.

    The poor decisions can impact the younger boys more than the senior guys but tonight I seen every Wanderers player on the field make poor decisions and not once not twice but multiple times, not one player is exempt from that.

    In robbo we must have faith because I am sure he learned a lot about the qualities of the players he has tonight including digging deep , intestinal fortitude etc:

    We wont finish top of the table in this league, Melbourne city may go close with a team of Mature quality soccer players but we can do alright with this squad, 

     

     

      

      

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    5 minutes ago, WHACKO said:

    Reality.  We've played 14 games and won 6 of them. Apart from beating the Mariners (who are currently first) the other 5 wins have been Wellington (8th)  Western (9th) Perth (10th)  Newcastle (11th) and Victory (12th).

    City have lost 4 so have we....6 teams have lost more than 4. It's the draws that are the killer.

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    5 minutes ago, Keithie said:

    We wont be the last to lose 3 points to City , they are very good mature soccer team but I think we let the poor Refereeing decisions impact us.

    The poor decisions can impact the younger boys more than the senior guys but tonight I seen every Wanderers player on the field make poor decisions and not once not twice but multiple times, not one player is exempt from that.

    In robbo we must have faith because I am sure he learned a lot about the qualities of the players he has tonight including digging deep , intestinal fortitude etc:

    We wont finish top of the table in this league, Melbourne city may go close with a team of Mature quality soccer players but we can do alright with this squad, 

     

      

    This.

    I'm not #CRout by any means. We are a good side.....not the best but decent. We CAN play. 

     The manager surely has to do something about the formation. It's not working especially against City.......1-6 in the games against them so far which says something has to change.

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    7 minutes ago, sonar said:

    City have lost 4 so have we....6 teams have lost more than 4. It's the draws that are the killer.

    City have also won two more games than us and played two less. We are not in there class. Especially if we persist with playing a back 3.

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    Realistically we probably do not have same quality to compete with Melbourne City , Sydney FC probably Central coast and maybe Macarthur.  Brisbane we can hold our own ,Adelaide we can hold our own ,Wellington is always tough but we can hold our own Perth still a question mark with them adding some quality players to their defence but I think we hold our own . Victory , Newcastle  and I think Western United (will struggle with the old group of players later in the season).

    Wo will be in the top six

    1, Most teams will lose to Melbourne city 

    2, Central Coast are playing above themselves, can they keep it up ?  

    3, Sydney FC I think will be thereabouts, lose Ninkovic with injury they are gone. 

    4, Macarthur has some very good quality players if they get their act together they will be thereabouts no surprise where they finish but a question mark over them

    5, Adelaide on current form are looking good.

    6, in my view is a lottery between Wanderers , Perth , and Wellington.

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    9, Western United or Brisbane roar

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    11, Newcastle

    12, Victory

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    Doesn't matter what incidents happened on the field, we deserved that. Not saying we played poor because I don't think we did, it's just that City are on another level compared to the rest of the A-League.

     

    1 hour ago, StringerBellend said:

    It wasn’t Eetswa 

    It definitely was itshays

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    Well done City, clearly the better team tonight and the best team in the league this season.

    Hopefully they don't choke like previous seasons...

    We weren't bad in the first half, 2nd half was really poor. 1 shot on target says it all.

    Free kick looked a bit dodgy to be given, smart from Noone to take it quickly, to me it seems a bit unfair but I have no clue on the rules regarding that sort of situation.

    Hope Natta is ok. Really dissapointed in Alex King for not stopping the play, he was staring at Natta on the ground and decided play should play on. For me what made it worse was the fact their goal was disallowed only because of offside rather than the foul by Nabbout in the build-up.

    Happy Ibini got a goal. 

    Really poor defending for a few of the goals, in particular the 3rd and 4th goal. Aquilina not closing down the Socceroos striker who has scored more goals than games against us was completely stupid.

    Russel was absolutely terrible tonight, and hasn't been good last 3-4 games in my opinion. Spell on the bench for me. This is why I thought we should sign another fullback to give him competition because maybe he starts to feel a bit too comfortable and isn't challenged for his spot. 3rd goal vision of him jogging when Noone was on the wing, in on goal was pathetic and showed no desire or heart.

    At the end of the day, we weren't good enough, and City were far too good, fair play to them. Robinson got it wrong tonight with formation, game plan and tactics. Should we make finals and verse City, hopefully he would have learned his lesson by then.

    I feel like we aren't a bad side but aren't a great side at all. Could probably finish anywhere between 11th to 2nd on the table.

    Onto the Roar!

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    4 minutes ago, THEWANDERERSPOST said:

    Well done City, clearly the better team tonight and the best team in the league this season.

    Hopefully they don't choke like previous seasons...

    We weren't bad in the first half, 2nd half was really poor. 1 shot on target says it all.

    Free kick looked a bit dodgy to be given, smart from Noone to take it quickly, to me it seems a bit unfair but I have no clue on the rules regarding that sort of situation.

    Hope Natta is ok. Really dissapointed in Alex King for not stopping the play, he was staring at Natta on the ground and decided play should play on. For me what made it worse was the fact their goal was disallowed only because of offside rather than the foul by Nabbout in the build-up.

    Happy Ibini got a goal. 

    Really poor defending for a few of the goals, in particular the 3rd and 4th goal. Aquilina not closing down the Socceroos striker who has scored more goals than games against us was completely stupid.

    Russel was absolutely terrible tonight, and hasn't been good last 3-4 games in my opinion. Spell on the bench for me. This is why I thought we should sign another fullback to give him competition because maybe he starts to feel a bit too comfortable and isn't challenged for his spot. 3rd goal vision of him jogging when Noone was on the wing, in on goal was pathetic and showed no desire or heart.

    At the end of the day, we weren't good enough, and City were far too good, fair play to them. Robinson got it wrong tonight with formation, game plan and tactics. Should we make finals and verse City, hopefully he would have learned his lesson by then.

    I feel like we aren't a bad side but aren't a great side at all. Could probably finish anywhere between 11th to 2nd on the table.

    Onto the Roar!

    I can sum up our season so far as consistently inconsistent. Frustrating as hell. In the end not good enough. 

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    4 hours ago, sonar said:

    City have lost 4 so have we....6 teams have lost more than 4. It's the draws that are the killer.

    They lost 4 early, showed improvement, progressed and are now spanking teams.

    Our coach persists with the same dross that has resulted in us winning 6 of 14.

    Ive seen people on here praising Carl for his post match interviews and being a classy loser. Faaaaaaark that. 4 season of losing... I’m done with losers

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    8 hours ago, WHACKO said:

    City have also won two more games than us and played two less. We are not in there class. Especially if we persist with playing a back 3.

     

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    The stats speak for themselves  played them twice already.

    Goals against 7. goals for 1 

    Has CR got it so wrong tactically both times.

    Are they just so much better than us in terms of quality.

    Combination of both ?

    They seem to be the team currently who are setting the  standard in the league. Based on our 2 displays against them. We are nowhere close. 

     

     

     

     

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    Last night was dreadful.

    No energy, no pressing the opposition, standing on the ball looking for passes, and the man marking was atrocious - I observed each player averaged 3-4 metres off their man in defence giving them all the time in the world to play their game. What was the tackle count? 3? No urgency at all.

    I don't have any concerns that this team can play and get results, but what they and the coach can't seem to manage is their mental game and mindset from week to week. There's no reset from goal to goal or game to game, so each week you never know which player or team is going to show up.

    We spent to much time in our heads wondering how they would play, how the ref would be, how Jamie would milk penalties, etc., in the lead up and forgot to just play our game hence all the ball watching and intrepid play.

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    I actually don't think we played badly Robbo opted more defensive strategy like I thought he would if we went 1-0 at half time would have been ok to get something. I think City is just that good like the Mariners earlier in the week we were made to look average but City is a team that is easily above everyone else in the A-league. No one come close to them at this momemt in the season

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    what was embarrassing for mine was watching the City forwards chasing down, harassing us while we had the ball in our defensive area and then watching Troisi and Ibini not even putting in the effort to put pressure on the opposition, the one time we did pressure them we scored, we did it once we scored once, why we didn't think to keep doing that is beyond me.  They were hungrier in every department, we did not win a 50/50 ball all night and even the 70/30s went their way as they played like a desperate team and we didn't.  Didn't help we couldn't get a call but that often happens where the dominant team gets the rub of the green as well.  They are a good side no doubt but we also do not have the skill or first touch to play out from the back against a team that closes down like that.  Remember we have 3 of our back 5 in their first season of senior football.  As I said before teams that compete with City play ugly football, they play route one and then hope on some hold up play and speed to take their hard press out of the game.  We would of been better with Cox or Ibini up top, 4 at the back and then have players moving off them and picking up the second ball.  I reckon Robbio git it absolutely spot on against Perth tactically, I reckon Robbo got it absolutely wrong vs City both times.

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    2 minutes ago, scarcev said:

    I reckon Robbio git it absolutely spot on against Perth tactically, I reckon Robbo got it absolutely wrong vs City both times.

    This.....also agree with the no press on their backs. Had to turn off for a while to stop screaming at the tv.  Hope young Natta is ok. ( imho Nabbout should have got a red.)........must win against the Roar next game.......:ninja:

    :D

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    10 hours ago, Upthehill said:

    They lost 4 early, showed improvement, progressed and are now spanking teams.

    Our coach persists with the same dross that has resulted in us winning 6 of 14.

    Ive seen people on here praising Carl for his post match interviews and being a classy loser. Faaaaaaark that. 4 season of losing... I’m done with losers

    He needs to do less talking and more coaching cause tactically he’s useless. The best tactical display the team has displayed this season was Kenny Miller changing to a back 4 against WU. Other than that, every other win was purely the effort of the players. I think CR is full of hot air

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    4 minutes ago, hughsey said:

    He needs to do less talking and more coaching cause tactically he’s useless. The best tactical display the team has displayed this season was Kenny Miller changing to a back 4 against WU. Other than that, every other win was purely the effort of the players. I think CR is full of hot air

    so when the players win it is them and when they lose it is the coach, yea that makes sense :woah:

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    21 minutes ago, scarcev said:

    so when the players win it is them and when they lose it is the coach, yea that makes sense :woah:

    I wouldn’t go that far but I think you’d struggle to give me an example of any win we’ve had this season where CR’s tactics were what won it for us over the simple efforts of the players capitalising on a poor opposition. When we lose or are losing the game plan doesn’t seem to change whatsoever. 

    Im just getting a bit sick of the way CR speaks like he’s this wise old head with a comprehensive resume of success. It reminds me of Gus Gould the way he seems to have all the answers but never the solution. I don’t want to sit and listen to his philosophies, let the management do the talking

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    Meant to say also, I can’t really fault the effort of our players this season for the most part
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    7 minutes ago, hughsey said:

    I wouldn’t go that far but I think you’d struggle to give me an example of any win we’ve had this season where CR’s tactics were what won it for us over the simple efforts of the players capitalising on a poor opposition. When we lose or are losing the game plan doesn’t seem to change whatsoever. 

    Im just getting a bit sick of the way CR speaks like he’s this wise old head with a comprehensive resume of success. It reminds me of Gus Gould the way he seems to have all the answers but never the solution. I don’t want to sit and listen to his philosophies, let the management do the talking

    The good thing about football is people can watch the same thing and have different opinions on it.  Against Perth we were tactically so different than we have ever been, played long and early at every opportunity to take advantage of their high line and slow middle, worked perfectly, scored 3 could of had 6.  Against Victory we played through them rather than around them and bossed their midfield, a change instead of our normal wide but no surprise as they are rubbish, against Nix (away) we played wide and put in enough crosses to win three games and we got a point due to some bad defensive lapses but dominated.  There's 3 of the top of my head.  Every time we are losing we got to extra man up front and lose a CDM, thats a change, problem is we find ourselves behind so often.

    As for not faulting our players, I dont mind when the kids Natta and such make errors they are supposed to but tell me about Troisi, to me he is a fraud, then again maybe that is my problem and its not his effort as it is actually the best he has, but he has been awful.

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    It was not a pretty game for WSW supporters to watch. We were outplayed across the park by a team with more intensity and desperation. They are also a team that has been in formation for a couple of seasons and without any young blokes.

    As a team we simply aren't up to their standard yet. We won't be this season because we are a work in progress, much as we would like the progress to already be. There is progress - by and large we are playing better football than for several years. We have a good squad, with depth, but they aren't a fully formed team yet. The young blokes have been a revelation but they're still very young. The fullbacks (and Baccus and even Natta) were shown some hard lessons last night especially by Nabbout and Noone. They toyed with us.  Nabbout should have been sent packing after hitting Natta with a shoulder to the head - one of the more dangerous plays I've seen.

    We didnt press well nor tackle but then they moved the ball quickly and well. They know each other's game and are well-drilled, building from last season. It was a reality check! In terms of back 3, 4 or 5, we could have had 6 and they were still better (4 at the back after Natta went off didn't make much difference). McLaren's goal was class from a confident player. We have a way to go to build that confidence and compete with the current City. Our measure of progress should not be results against City - not this year.

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    I think the only thing I can really complain about was the free kick conceded that led to the equaliser. I don't think it was a foul, McGowan should have stood on the ball.

    Natta learnt a valuable lesson when your in 50/50  challenge go all in otherwise you get hurt. Hopefully it isn't too bad. 

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    1 minute ago, Sithslayer1991 said:

    I think the only thing I can really complain about was the free kick conceded that led to the equaliser. I don't think it was a foul, McGowan should have stood on the ball.

    Natta learnt a valuable lesson when your in 50/50  challenge go all in otherwise you get hurt. Hopefully it isn't too bad. 

    I don't think that Natta could have done anything different IMHO......McGowan on the other hand is a major liability

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