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  • WSW Extend Winless Run To Seven


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    New A-League team Western United have snatched a late draw at Parramatta tonight, with Aaron Calver equalising late after Patrick Ziegler's close range header gave the Wanderers the lead 10 minutes from time.

    The Wanderers bought back Daniel Lopar into the starting lineup after his illness last week, while Daniel Wilmering, having suffered an ACL injury at training was replaced at fullback by Tate Russell. At the start of the first half Western United nearly opened the scoring in the 2nd minute. After a well worked attack down the left side, Connor Pain's cutback found Panagiotis Kone but his shot was blocked by the leg of Daniel Lopar.

    Western Sydney's best chance of the half came late on in a similar fashion. This time it ended with Kwame Yeboah blasting the ball into low earth orbit, wrecking what should have been a golden chance to put a goal on the board.

    Apart from those chances, the Wanderers were dominant, pressing hard up the pitch and forcing Western United into long balls with little to show for it. Unfortunately the same old problems for the Wanderers came to the fore, as they failed to find good last passes to unlock defences, and in particular their crossing was abysmal.

    The 2nd half followed the pattern of the first, Western United parking the bus and bringing out their now trademark time wasting tactics to frustrate their opposition. The Wanderers didn't let the delays pull them out of their focus, and they were finally rewarded in the 78th minute. Nicolai Muller launched a corner into the near post, Keanu Baccus rose for a flick-on that found German central defender Patrick Ziegler who couldn't miss from point blank range to make it 1-0.

    Despite having to force the temp, Western United took some time to ramp up their attack. In the 86th minute they took advantage of Mitch Duke's failure to track back. Pain managed to squeeze just enough space from Russell to fire a cross towards the far post area. With Georgievski occupied & blocked by Max Burgess, Aaron Calver had slipped in unmarked, his cushioned header went back across Lopar and landed in the middle of the goal for the equaliser.

    Despite the clear need for fresh blood, not a single substitution was made by Markus Babbel. Those could have been made before the goal in an effort to push the attack to the visiting team, or after the Wanderers scored to take some of the heat out of the game and introduce fresh legs that would have been able to press & defend more effectively.

    The draw was worth 1 point on the league ladder but practically worthless in terms of the direction of the team, especially when compared with the high flying W-League team and their earlier demolition of the Sydney FC's Women. 5 losses bracketed at either end by draws simply isn't good enough for the club. The pre-season hopes of a top 2 finish are dead, and right now even making the 6 team finals series looks shaky. With no plan B in offer, and talented attacking youth players seemingly unable to make enough of an impression to get onto the park at all, it remains to be see how Babbel can turn around this dire start of the season.

    The Wanderers play Adelaide United on Friday December 27th in Adelaide.


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    1 hour ago, wendybr said:

    Re Babbel' s reasoning for no subs.

     He said, straight after the game when asked, that his observation was that the boys were all fine. Noone looked to need replacing and things were working.

    Something of that nature anyway....he didnt feel the need.

    Dont know if he elaborated in his presser. He probably did.

    Then he was watching a different game to everyone else at the stadium 

     

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    There's been research into subs in football, players subbed on score the most, players subbed off the second, then players who stay on the whole game.

    I don't understand how a coach can watch a week of training in heatwave conditions, then 90 minutes without picking even ONE player to sub off. It is utterly baffling.

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    32 minutes ago, mack said:

    There's been research into subs in football, players subbed on score the most, players subbed off the second, then players who stay on the whole game.

    I don't understand how a coach can watch a week of training in heatwave conditions, then 90 minutes without picking even ONE player to sub off. It is utterly baffling.

    Anyone who’s played football at any level knows this is true. It’s not even just about the legs. Defender start to get a bit slow in the head when they are drained.

    From the Santalabs to the Origis of the world, come on with 20 to go and they will turn half chances into goals

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    2 hours ago, wendybr said:

    Re Babbel' s reasoning for no subs.

     He said, straight after the game when asked, that his observation was that the boys were all fine. Noone looked to need replacing and things were working.

     

    Noone's got a game to play today as well ;)

     

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    2 minutes ago, Upthehill said:

    Not sure, but we were one short from our longest losing streak. Babbels going for records

    lol we gotta get all the records :P

     

    2 minutes ago, mack said:

    10 games last season I believe.

    thank you i was thinking season 3 or last season..........neither season was fun but in 3 we got the ACL so cant complain about that season

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    Cahill could out jump Meier so playing to a perceived strength by attacking down the flanks then floating in a speculator I don't get. I'm clueless on tactics but know what "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results" means. I'm 100 percent on Babbel staying but the dude needs to get humble and get some feedback on his tactical shortcomings. Does Bulut have a coaching certificate?

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    12 hours ago, DamnedUnited said:

    Cahill could out jump Meier so playing to a perceived strength by attacking down the flanks then floating in a speculator I don't get. I'm clueless on tactics but know what "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results" means. I'm 100 percent on Babbel staying but the dude needs to get humble and get some feedback on his tactical shortcomings. Does Bulut have a coaching certificate?

    Yeah, simply pointing to his height doesn’t cut it. He’s missed 3 sitters with the head. Look back over his goals from germany, he’s an opportunist - a 6’6 fox in the box. If we wanted a heading clinic we should have kept Riera (we should have kept him anyway)

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    I think we are too slow in getting the ball into the box with our crosses. By the time we actually put the cross in, the defenders are set and everyone is static. When we get a counter and and early ball into the box we look far more dangerous, but we hardly ever seem to do it.

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    12 hours ago, Upthehill said:

    Yeah, simply pointing to his height doesn’t cut it. He’s missed 3 sitters with the head. Look back over his goals from germany, he’s an opportunist - a 6’6 fox in the box. If we wanted a heading clinic we should have kept Riera (we should have kept him anyway)

    Was going to pose the question earlier about if we'd have been better off holding onto riera?

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    43 minutes ago, ZachMercer said:

    Was going to pose the question earlier about if we'd have been better off holding onto riera?

    In a word, yes. If only so that he could take Yeboah towards the goal and actually show him what the ******* thing looked like.

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    Dw people , the stadium is slowly fixing everything , you just can't see it yet 

     

     

    BABBELOUT!!!!!

    LEDEREROUT!!!!

    JTOUT!!!!!

     

    FREE THE HAMMER 🔨

     

    FREE THE CHAIR LEG

     

    FREE THE RED AND BLACK 

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    2 hours ago, 1988banana said:

    Dw people , the stadium is slowly fixing everything , you just can't see it yet 

     

     

    BABBELOUT!!!!!

    LEDEREROUT!!!!

    JTOUT!!!!!

     

    FREE THE HAMMER 🔨

     

    FREE THE CHAIR LEG

     

    FREE THE RED AND BLACK 

    :(:(

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    6 hours ago, wendybr said:

    :(:(

    They talk that talk on gas but them boys they ain't got no triggers
    They act like they in trenches but them boys ain't got no diggers

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    2 hours ago, WanderingToqui said:

    #White_shorts_in

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    And we will win.

    Home jersey white shorts in: win v CCM, SFC and draw with BR.

    Home jersey black shorts in: loss v MC, WP (away), draw v WU

    Away jersey: win v MV, loss v PG, NJ, WU,

     

    The record speak for itself.

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    Lots of criticism for Babel but how about the players? There’s been some questionable decision making over the last 6 weeks:

    - Crossing the ball into the box regardless of whether an attacking player is there to meet it.

    - Needless fouls in midfield and opposition defence

    - Ball watching in defence

    - 2 and 3 players crowding around the ball on the edge of the box in attack

    Intelligence and discipline - this has to come from the players because when we are smarter we play well and lead games.

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    21 minutes ago, hughsey said:

    Lots of criticism for Babel but how about the players? There’s been some questionable decision making over the last 6 weeks:

    - Crossing the ball into the box regardless of whether an attacking player is there to meet it.

    - Needless fouls in midfield and opposition defence

    - Ball watching in defence

    - 2 and 3 players crowding around the ball on the edge of the box in attack

    Intelligence and discipline - this has to come from the players because when we are smarter we play well and lead games.

    I don't disagree but there was an interesting article in the print edition of the Sun-Herald about WSW and it was quoting Zeigler who said wtte that after the Bossi articles they had a team meeting to decide what sort of team they wanted to be, the style of football they wanted to play. If it has taken a season and a bit for the manager to work out how we want to play.....that's damning of Babbel and his assistant tbh. 

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/draw-shows-way-forward-for-embattled-wanderers-says-ziegler-20191221-p53m4c.html

    Ziegler said the Sydney Morning Herald's reports this week had sparked a series of discussions within the team's inner sanctum about its tactical identity, which had previously not been easy to glean after several formation and personnel changes by Babbel and de Marigny.

     

     

     

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    I just watched the highlights of the W-League game of WSW v ESFC

    The solution is so simple: let’s get the W-League team to play on Friday night because they play some pretty neat attacking football and can find the net.

    our first goal in that game... geez. What a hit!

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    Just now, Unlimited said:

    I just watched the highlights of the W-League game of WSW v ESFC

    The solution is so simple: let’s get the W-League team to play on Friday night because they play some pretty neat attacking football and can find the net.

    our first goal in that game... geez. What a hit!

    .........or Heffernan to coach the boys as well.......:ninja:

    :D

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    1 hour ago, sonar said:

     they had a team meeting to decide what sort of team they wanted to be, the style of football they wanted to play.

    If it has taken a season and a bit for the manager to work out how we want to play.....that's damning of Babbel and his assistant tbh. 

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/draw-shows-way-forward-for-embattled-wanderers-says-ziegler-20191221-p53m4c.html

    Ziegler said the Sydney Morning Herald's reports this week had sparked a series of discussions within the team's inner sanctum about its tactical identity, which had previously not been easy to glean after several formation and personnel changes by Babbel and de Marigny.

    :sad:

     

    Wot????????

     

    Other appropriate emojis could have been....:shok:  or:nea:or :huh: or :wacko: or :unknw: or even :fool:.

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    20 minutes ago, wendybr said:

    :sad:

     

    Wot????????

     

    Other appropriate emojis could have been....:shok: or :nea:or :huh: or :wacko: or :unknw: or even :fool:.

    I would of gone wih a WTF. ..:unknw:   

    :D

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    It's worthy of a WTF, isn't it!

    But I noticed you were more restrained than to give it a WTF response also! :lol:

    Surely others will come in with that response! :)

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