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    Ballack: The Truth. Why He Is Not Coming.


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    Michael Ballack and his attempt at joining the Wanderers appear to be nothing more than an agent looking for a payday.

     

    With the innuendo regarding Michael Ballack, not to mention the media reports and negativity in the football community towards any possible 'deal breaker' with Ballack, I'd like to set the record straight. The general information has come from the Wanderers organisation.

     

    No formal discussions took place with Michael Ballack from our understanding of the situation.

     

    I believe all media reports have been leaked by Ballack's agent.

     

    Upon hearing of Ballack's apparent desire to play for Western Sydney Wanderers FC the club management undertook a series of steps to research and examine both Ballack personally, his level of fitness as a player and how the move would benefit the Wanderers as a club. This due diligence research included:

    • He is 36 years of age as we all know.
    • He has injured his knee in the last handful of seasons.
    • He has ankle problems.
    • He fractured his shin recently.
    • In the past 3 years he has played a total of 33 League and 13 Cup or European games.
    • His last actual match was on May 4th.
    • He has apparently not been training since then.
    • He has apparently not hired the services of a personal trainer to keep match fitness.
    • He has had some alleged acrimonious departures from not just the German National team but also several clubs.
    • He has been concentrating on broadcast duties recently.

    The final piece of information that must be known is the reported figure requested by his agent.

     

    For a 6 month contract, the total fee the club would have been looking at was $2.2 million.

     

    It is sobering to see our club being fiscally responsible and thorough in their research. It hold us in great stead for the future.

     

    We have invested in young quality locals talent, experienced imports and a Japanese maestro.

     

    What we all should be doing is celebrating the signing of Shinji Ono, which is confirmed. A player who not only younger than Ballack, however played only last weekend.

     

    Update - Ballack has retired. This event completely confirms the decision of the Wanderers staff to not proceed with signing Ballack on a deal.

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    2.2 mil for 6 months :shok: who does he think he is ? Cristiano Ronaldo ?

     

    I agree with you benched, fiscal responsibility is what all the fans want, less we end up like NQF, GCU etc etc

     

    Ono :ninja:

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    that is great that the wanderers did their research many clubs would have just heard Ballack and signed him, good on the club i respect them for that

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    cmon media, set the record straight, post this article :)

     

    nice work benched, thanks for clearing up :)

     

    sounds like wanderers mgmt def have some "tensai" about them if you know what I mean :)

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    I have just received some very interesting news which I think should be shared.

     

    With the innuendo regarding Michael Ballack, not to mention the media reports and some negativity towards any possible 'deal breaker' with Ballack, I'd like to set the record straight.

     

    Firstly, no formal discussion took place with Michael Ballack. All media reports have apparently been leaked by Ballack's agent.

     

    Secondly, it is heartening to hear the extent of the due diligence undertaken by our club. Upon hearing of Ballack's 'apparent' desire to play for WSW FC, some research was undertaken.

     

    He's 36 years of age as we all know.

    He broke his knee last year.

    He has ankle problems.

    He fractured his shin recently.

    In the past 3 years he has played a total of 33 games.

    His last actual match was on May 4th.

    He has not been training since then, nor has he hired the services of a personal trainer to keep in any form of shape.

    He has had some acrimonious departures from not just the German National team but also several clubs.

    He has been concentrating on broadcast duties recently.

     

     

    The icing on the cake is the reported figure requested by his agent.

    For a 6 month contract, the total fee the club would have been looking at was $2.2 million.

     

     

    It is sobering to see our club being fiscally responsible and thorough in their research. It hold us in great stead for the future.

    We have invested in Youth, quality locals, experienced imports and a Japanese maestro.

     

     

     

    What we all should be doing is celebrating the signing of Shinji Ono, which is confirmed. A player who not only younger than Ballack, however played only last weekend.

     

    All of the above plus he's reported to have spoken less than favourably about our head coach after his phone discussion with him.

    Our club may not even be aware of this, oops, they will now.

    Talk about shooting oneself in the foot.

    He just didn't fit the mould for a community based club such as Western Sydney Wanderers FC.

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    I have just received some very interesting news which I think should be shared.

     

    With the innuendo regarding Michael Ballack, not to mention the media reports and some negativity towards any possible 'deal breaker' with Ballack, I'd like to set the record straight.

     

    Firstly, no formal discussion took place with Michael Ballack. All media reports have apparently been leaked by Ballack's agent.

     

    Secondly, it is heartening to hear the extent of the due diligence undertaken by our club. Upon hearing of Ballack's 'apparent' desire to play for WSW FC, some research was undertaken.

     

    He's 36 years of age as we all know.

    He broke his knee last year.

    He has ankle problems.

    He fractured his shin recently.

    In the past 3 years he has played a total of 33 games.

    His last actual match was on May 4th.

    He has not been training since then, nor has he hired the services of a personal trainer to keep in any form of shape.

    He has had some acrimonious departures from not just the German National team but also several clubs.

    He has been concentrating on broadcast duties recently.

     

     

    The icing on the cake is the reported figure requested by his agent.

    For a 6 month contract, the total fee the club would have been looking at was $2.2 million.

     

     

    It is sobering to see our club being fiscally responsible and thorough in their research. It hold us in great stead for the future.

    We have invested in Youth, quality locals, experienced imports and a Japanese maestro.

     

     

     

    What we all should be doing is celebrating the signing of Shinji Ono, which is confirmed. A player who not only younger than Ballack, however played only last weekend.

     

    All of the above plus he's reported to have spoken less than favourably about our head coach after his phone discussion with him.

    Our club may not even be aware of this, oops, they will now.

    Talk about shooting oneself in the foot.

    He just didn't fit the mould for a community based club such as Western Sydney Wanderers FC.

    who reported that? i dont like Ballack so i am glad his not part of the team

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    Thanks benched!

     

    My mind goes back to twg responses i saw from people saying "ooft, how disrespectful of WS not to sign Ballack straight away!!". Reading the likes of those messages i was shaking my head. Now I'm laughing

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    Is this allowed to be public knowledge Benched?

     

    ie, can we flood Twitter with a link to this thread to set the record straight?

     

    MattyB: all those comments were also confident we'll be coming dead last and by some margin. I think many will be shocked this season.

    Edited by Erebus

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    Also, his ego would not be allowed through customs.

    They get very suspicious of oversized parcels.

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    Thanks benched!

     

    My mind goes back to twg responses i saw from people saying "ooft, how disrespectful of WS not to sign Ballack straight away!!". Reading the likes of those messages i was shaking my head. Now I'm laughing

     

    must admit i did question why we didnt sign him, was hard not to without having all this info.

     

    Good to see the club making the best choices, loving Ono atm.

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    Is this allowed to be public knowledge Benched?

     

    ie, can we flood Twitter with a link to this thread to set the record straight?

     

    MattyB: all those comments were also confident we'll be coming dead last and by some margin. I think many will be shocked this season.

     

    I feel like 7th or 8th would be a reasonable season. But anyway....

     

    Back on topic. With Ono playing the vast majority of matches we could push for the finals

     

    Wait, that's not on topic

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    Is this allowed to be public knowledge Benched?

     

    ie, can we flood Twitter with a link to this thread to set the record straight?

     

    MattyB: all those comments were also confident we'll be coming dead last and by some margin. I think many will be shocked this season.

     

    yep go for it. There's a 442 exclusive for you Erebus.

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    Thanks, Benched. Truth versus fantasy - eh???

     

    I think now we are in the Asian League, having a great Japanese player will help with TV deals - the time difference is not as great as it is to Europe too.

     

    Okay all you Japanese companies with a presence in Australia - where's your money?????

     

    Welcome Ono.

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    Is this allowed to be public knowledge Benched?

     

    ie, can we flood Twitter with a link to this thread to set the record straight?

     

    MattyB: all those comments were also confident we'll be coming dead last and by some margin. I think many will be shocked this season.

     

    yep go for it. There's a 442 exclusive for you Erebus.

     

    I got to say, I'm quite impressed by the head honchos for revealing this information. Its good to see them being transparent regarding the matter of Ballack and why they did not consider him

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    Great work Benched!

     

    Now we need to get the word out there to all the people who claimed the club didn't know what they were doing.

     

    The World Game homepage has a section called 'Your Say' where they post a comment from one of their articles. This quote was there as late as this afternoon (now):

     

    How about the 4000 plus A League fans who have voted 85% in this website's poll in favour of Ballack coming to Western Sydney?

    That is a huge poll sample by any standards in the Australian media.

    Moreover, in case you have forgotten, WSW is not owned by Lyle Gorman or anybody else directly connected with the club: It is owned by FFA, i.e. the players (and many of their parents who pay the registration fees which help bankroll FFA), coaches, supporters and media partners of the game across Australia.

    I am damn sure they are entitled to have their say about the future of the club they currently funding'; and at the moment an obstinate CEO and coach are not listening to the overwhelming majority of the game's, and in this case therefore also WSW's stakeholders.

    Lyle Gorman is making a mockery of his constant mantra about "listening to the fans": The "fans" in the particular case of WSW are in fact all stakeholders of football in Australia. We are currently paying your salary Tony and Lyle and if you will not listen to us via FFA, then please move on.

     

    This is the kind of crap that people are saying and even though it's garbage, it's on the front page of TWG. If anything our club has proved over and over again how competent they are and this is more proof. We all need to get out there and set the story straight.

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    Thanks, Benched. Truth versus fantasy - eh???

     

    I think now we are in the Asian League, having a great Japanese player will help with TV deals - the time difference is not as great as it is to Europe too.

     

    Okay all you Japanese companies with a presence in Australia - where's your money?????

     

    Welcome Ono.

    Don't forget that Brisbane have a a Korean player and Perth have brought in a young Japanese player on loan. So there are a few Asian players around this season which is good to see.

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    Is this allowed to be public knowledge Benched?

     

    ie, can we flood Twitter with a link to this thread to set the record straight?

     

    MattyB: all those comments were also confident we'll be coming dead last and by some margin. I think many will be shocked this season.

     

    yep go for it. There's a 442 exclusive for you Erebus.

     

    I've emailed some people. Hopefully I can get it in the news for us all

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    Is this allowed to be public knowledge Benched?

     

    ie, can we flood Twitter with a link to this thread to set the record straight?

     

    MattyB: all those comments were also confident we'll be coming dead last and by some margin. I think many will be shocked this season.

     

    yep go for it. There's a 442 exclusive for you Erebus.

     

    I got to say, I'm quite impressed by the head honchos for revealing this information. Its good to see them being transparent regarding the matter of Ballack and why they did not consider him

     

    Good point, rare transparency, fantastic

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    Great work Benched!

     

    Now we need to get the word out there to all the people who claimed the club didn't know what they were doing.

     

    The World Game homepage has a section called 'Your Say' where they post a comment from one of their articles. This quote was there as late as this afternoon (now):

     

    How about the 4000 plus A League fans who have voted 85% in this website's poll in favour of Ballack coming to Western Sydney?

    That is a huge poll sample by any standards in the Australian media.

    Moreover, in case you have forgotten, WSW is not owned by Lyle Gorman or anybody else directly connected with the club: It is owned by FFA, i.e. the players (and many of their parents who pay the registration fees which help bankroll FFA), coaches, supporters and media partners of the game across Australia.

    I am damn sure they are entitled to have their say about the future of the club they currently funding'; and at the moment an obstinate CEO and coach are not listening to the overwhelming majority of the game's, and in this case therefore also WSW's stakeholders.

    Lyle Gorman is making a mockery of his constant mantra about "listening to the fans": The "fans" in the particular case of WSW are in fact all stakeholders of football in Australia. We are currently paying your salary Tony and Lyle and if you will not listen to us via FFA, then please move on.

     

    This is the kind of crap that people are saying and even though it's garbage, it's on the front page of TWG. If anything our club has proved over and over again how competent they are and this is more proof. We all need to get out there and set the story straight.

     

    THat quote is from under the "frustrated ballack" article. I've replied to it already...

    the one positive is that it would appear everyone seems to think they own a piece of wanderers... :lol:

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    I agree with the ridiculousness of expecting Lyall and Popa to be guided by online polls, particularly as those voting would have no idea of the fact surrounding ballacks fitness and focus.....The transparency is great from a fan's point of view, but I'd be worried it may limit the clubs ability to negotiate with other players in the future. Would you try and link yourself to a new club if you run the risk of them disclosing such info?

     

    It's a fine line to dance between appeasing fans thirst for knowledge of the inner workings off the club and maintaining professional and respectful relationships with potential players.

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    Very True GaryFish.

     

    I think Lyall is sh1t scared about the backlash from the fans and has put this info out there to put out the fire before it takes hold.

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    THat quote is from under the "frustrated ballack" article. I've replied to it already...

    the one positive is that it would appear everyone seems to think they own a piece of wanderers... :lol:

     

    Yeah I thought that was funny. Somebody's paid the rego fee for their kid in the under 5's so they now know better than the people running an A-League club, including the man that used to run the whole league.

     

     

    The transparency is great from a fan's point of view, but I'd be worried it may limit the clubs ability to negotiate with other players in the future.

    Would you try and link yourself to a new club if you run the risk of them disclosing such info?

     

    It's a fine line to dance between appeasing fans thirst for knowledge of the inner workings off the club and maintaining professional and respectful relationships with potential players.

     

    I guess it sends the message that if you're serious you'll get a go (Ono), if you screw us around we'll out you as a tool (Ballack, or at least his manager).

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    2.2 mil for 6 months :shok: who does he think he is ? Cristiano Ronaldo ?

     

    I agree with you benched, fiscal responsibility is what all the fans want, less we end up like NQF, GCU etc etc

     

    Ono :ninja:

    Ronaldo gets that in two days lol hahahahaha

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    Most of that is in the public domain and would be pretty easy for any club thinking of signing him up to find out anyway. The only bits of relevance are - the lack of match condition and the fact that all the press was from the agent... if he's prepared to let the club know that he hasn't been doing any serious training himself then why is he going to have an issue if other clubs find out.

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    Do you guys want this to be publicised? I can throw it up on @WSWFCNews if you like. (Linking thread)

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    .

     

     

    I guess it sends the message that if you're serious you'll get a go (Ono), if you screw us around we'll out you as a tool (Ballack, or at least his manager).

    Agreed, but i just fear that in the realm of marquee players this league will be able to attract, they all might have some things they won't want disclosed and you run the risk of scaring potential players away.

    As I said, fine line.

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    Do you guys want this to be publicised? I can throw it up on @WSWFCNews if you like. (Linking thread)

    yeah, link to this article/thread

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    Very True GaryFish.

     

    I think Lyall is sh1t scared about the backlash from the fans and has put this info out there to put out the fire before it takes hold.

     

    The exact opposite Jowell.

    I asked Lyall the question, he gave me the answers.

    The info is nothing confidential really. It would have leaked out eventually, plus all the other info regarding his physical status is simply on the public record. You just need to do the research.

    I've made this public because the perception amongst Joe Average is the club is dragging the chain and missing an opportunity.

    Nothing could be further from the truth.

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