Markus Babbel Is New Wanderers Coach

 I want the passion, I want the will to win, I want 100% left on the pitch, our core fans deserve no less. Some of our insipid performances last season were embarrassing. There's no shame in losing if you have given your all but in some games especially where our foreign players just looked like passengers and uniterested, the fans deserved better. Markus will get the team to deliver and I believe we will be the force we deserve to be. We have been victims of our early success but surely our mantra every season should be top 3, anything else is failure. No BS about being in a salary capped league, limited skill of the local players etc etc, Markus in just the few words he has spoken will deliver.

7 hours ago, FCB said:

 even you will have nothing to moan about :-)

Geez if you’re telling me I moan a lot then I best get off the net. I hate moaners, but the internet’s a petri dish for it so I’m probably best takin a break.

My point, in case you missed it, is that you’re already blaming any downfall on Aussie football, like that could be the only thing that brings him down.

1 hour ago, btron3000 said:

Geez if you’re telling me I moan a lot then I best get off the net. I hate moaners, but the internet’s a petri dish for it so I’m probably best takin a break.

My point, in case you missed it, is that you’re already blaming any downfall on Aussie football, like that could be the only thing that brings him down.

Yeah, I missed that. I guess I am focussing too much on having a BL1 coach in our club. Silly me. 

Is this what football in Australia has become? People disagreeing with each other?

Has anyone seen any material in regards to his coaching career? 

Not just wiki, but a breakdown of coaching style, methods or type of manager he is? Clear he has a very good playing career but not the greatest yardstick of how he will be as a manager.

21 minutes ago, Prydzopolis said:

Has anyone seen any material in regards to his coaching career? 

Not just wiki, but a breakdown of coaching style, methods or type of manager he is? Clear he has a very good playing career but not the greatest yardstick of how he will be as a manager.

Hi Prydz

I looked up transfermarkt which gives you theteams he managed plus the tears he managed them and preferred formation.

Thanks Paul, yes I saw that on Wiki but I don’t put too much stock in preferred formation. It depends on the team, it depends on the latest trends in Football & the situation not just with the club but the players they have at the time. I’d rather see something more more in depth to the way he performed during the season.

Seen a link to a Hertha article, anything more recent?

http://bundesligafanatic.com/20110517/what-to-expect-next-season-hertha-berlin-–-a-tactical-examination-and-season-review/

Fantastic article by the way, got to love the tactical nous in the article but it is from 2011, 7 years is a long time in football.

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Andy Brassel on the “On the Continent podcast” (mailbag show on Saturday) answered a question on him. Spoke about how he was a victim of his own early success, moved to Switzerland to renergize his career. Worth the listen, in the quick fire answer to twitter questions at the end of the pod

6 minutes ago, Prydzopolis said:

Thanks Paul, yes I saw that on Wiki but I don’t put too much stock in preferred formation. It depends on the team, it depends on the latest trends in Football & the situation not just with the club but the players they have at the time. I’d rather see something more more in depth to the way he performed during the season.

Seen a link to a Hertha article, anything more recent?

No on the article but preferred formation was in transfermarket.

I think you would have to look at every game played, particularly in the second season, when he gets his preferred type of players.

Babbel  "Tomi Juric was saying to me the crowds are totally crazy and after Switzerland, of course was a good time there but the supporters are very quiet and not so many in the stands".

I don't know what games he went to, but I don't think we're this crazy. Also if the RBB don't turn up at all, well !!!

9 minutes ago, WHACKO said:

Babbel  "Tomi Juric was saying to me the crowds are totally crazy and after Switzerland, of course was a good time there but the supporters are very quiet and not so many in the stands".

I don't know what games he went to, but I don't think we're this crazy. Also if the RBB don't turn up at all, well !!!

They look like a guys who are ready for a bank heist rather than Football ultras

On 27/05/2018 at 6:55 AM, Prydzopolis said:

Andy Brassel on the “On the Continent podcast” (mailbag show on Saturday) answered a question on him. Spoke about how he was a victim of his own early success, moved to Switzerland to renergize his career. Worth the listen, in the quick fire answer to twitter questions at the end of the pod

Here is the link to the podcast, fast forward to the last 5 minutes. The rest is very good insight in European football that is hard to find elsewhere. 

I was surprised they went with my question as I tried to ask Andy Brassel directly on twitter as I didn’t think they would air it on OTC.

https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/on-the-continent/id1272100668?mt=2&i=1000412302887

This Bossi article was posted in the squad development thread, Lederer's statements about the new coach are quite significant.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/babbel-first-marquee-player-next-for-wanderers-20180524-p4zhcn.html

"We wanted to make a statement, we wanted to lift the standard of the game. We wanted to ensure our players have the best opportunity there is and we wanted something new instead of recycling the same old coaches. Our fans are the best and they deserve the best."

"He’s got fantastic contacts all over the world and of course that will be good for us. We will capitalise on that and it will be good for the club. He will attract a lot of players... You know players, they want to look up to someone, they want to respect someone, they want someone who’s done it all and he has done it all."

"Once again, we talk to lots of people and if the right person comes along - the right person - that we believe will contribute to our club, then of course we are [in the market for a high-profile visa player]. But, it’s got to be the right person, we’re not going to take a 37-year-old guy who just played somewhere, it has to be the right person and we will find one. We will find the right players to suit our team, absolutely."

"To be totally honest, we found [Babbel] We approached him. We knew he was coaching and finishing his contract in Switzerland so we got into contact with him. He was our pick from day one - make no question about that."

Encouraging statements from Lederer, good to hear

23 hours ago, spectacular291 said:

Here is the link to the podcast, fast forward to the last 5 minutes. The rest is very good insight in European football that is hard to find elsewhere. 

I was surprised they went with my question as I tried to ask Andy Brassel directly on twitter as I didn’t think they would air it on OTC.

https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/on-the-continent/id1272100668?mt=2&i=1000412302887

They did say on the Football Ramble that they had received quite a few questions on Babbel and said they'd answer it on the OTC pod. Andy Brassel's knowledge of european football is quite incredible. he does a radio show on talk sport 2 which is an excellent listen for European football chat. I'd say his recent knowledge on Babbel in Switzerland probably isn't as in depth as Switzerland is a bit off his radar.

22 hours ago, FCB said:

This Bossi article was posted in the squad development thread, Lederer's statements about the new coach are quite significant.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/babbel-first-marquee-player-next-for-wanderers-20180524-p4zhcn.html

I'm surprised that Bossi was able to put out a straight shooting piece with his usual out of touch & misguided ramblings which usually includes more of this biases than actual fact. 

Yes, that is quite a statement from Lederer, it raises questions for me with last seasons appointment of Gombau & his comments at the time. I guess, what was he supposed to say? We want Gombau to work but if it doesn't we won't hesitate to give him the flick? Why give him such a long leash when we signed him to come in, put no pressure on him to achieve results and do whatever he wants for the remainder of the 17/18 season?

3 hours ago, matty said:

Encouraging statements from Lederer, good to hear

Indeed.

1 hour ago, Prydzopolis said:

Yes, that is quite a statement from Lederer, it raises questions for me with last seasons appointment of Gombau & his comments at the time. I guess, what was he supposed to say? We want Gombau to work but if it doesn't we won't hesitate to give him the flick? Why give him such a long leash when we signed him to come in, put no pressure on him to achieve results and do whatever he wants for the remainder of the 17/18 season?

Prydz, I am surprised that you are still surprised.

Gombau said one thing in October during the interview process, and that's where Lederer's endorsement came from. He was signed in good faith. Then Gombau did the total opposite once he took charge in November, and it became blatantly obvious after the ANZ derby rout that there was a mismatch. The alarm bells were ringing.

Gombau was told that the WSW are not a vehicle for some project, but a result oriented football club. That was the framework he was supposed to operate in - and Gombau chose to ignore his employers. "I won't change", he said more than once, and the club ending up in the 7th heaven after Rd 27 he considered being "part of the project".

The thing is: there was no such project. It only existed in his imagination. Gombau was toast long before the season finished, and the rest is history.

Enter Babbel. I can't stress enough just how well Chairman, CEO and GM did to lure Babbel to Australia. We've been discussing Andre Schubert here. Mack at the time suggested that he might be "too big of a manager to come to Australia", but Babbel is bigger.  There are not many German managers I rate higher than Babbel: Loew, Heynckes, Tuchel, Klopp, Wagner, Rangnick, Hecking, Streich, Roger Schmidt, Nagelsmann. Babbel is in the next group, and Kurz isn't. We signed a German top 20 manager. It really is unbelievable.

We will all experience that the gap between a Catalan bus driver and a Babbel is as big as Valles Marinieris.

I said when Gombau was appointed that he was the post popa sacrificial lamb in the same way Moyes was at Man U and that he wouldn't last beyond 7 months. He was a stop gap appointment when popa left us in the lurch.

49 minutes ago, FCB said:

 

Gombau was told that the WSW are not a vehicle for some project, but a result oriented football club. That was the framework he was supposed to operate in - and Gombau chose to ignore his employers. "I won't change", he said more than once, and the club ending up in the 7th heaven after Rd 27 he considered being "part of the project".

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This right here was what I thought was happening. I could never see the executive team being okay with murdering their biggest ever salary spend, and taking it laying down.

All his previous 3 year 'project' produced last time was a preseason cup and 3rd place.

Babbel is a fantastic outcome.

18 hours ago, FCB said:

We will all experience that the gap between a Catalan bus driver and a Babbel is as big as Valles Marinieris.

 

 

So cruel, but somehow so apt.

17 hours ago, Smoggy said:

I said when Gombau was appointed that he was the post popa sacrificial lamb in the same way Moyes was at Man U and that he wouldn't last beyond 7 months. He was a stop gap appointment when popa left us in the lurch.

I think he was the last man standing after Milicic said no and the other German Schuster appointment fell through.

When's he done with his family holiday? Lets get this show on the road!

16 hours ago, Paul01 said:

I think he was the last man standing after Milicic said no and the other German Schuster appointment fell through.

Correct, Gumby was the Stephen Bradbury (last man standing) coaching appointment.

Trust us to get a German coach when German football turns shite,

10 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

Trust us to get a German coach when German football turns shite,

Just what I was thinking

1 hour ago, Smoggy said:

Trust us to get a German coach when German football turns shite,

Anyone remember the so-called saviour of German youth football Holger Osiek😯

1 hour ago, Smoggy said:

Trust us to get a German coach when German football turns shite,

Should've got Harry Redknapp or Sam Allardyce instead.

18 minutes ago, Carns said:

Should've got Harry Redknapp or Sam Allardyce instead.

Surely you have had your fill of Large Samuel “football”

30 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

Surely you have had your fill of Large Samuel “football”

It's never enough! Sam, Roy Hodgson and 'Arry could be a brains trust!

29 minutes ago, Carns said:

It's never enough! Sam, Roy Hodgson and 'Arry could be a brains trust!

For the Western Sydney Warriors maybe!

On 28/6/2018 at 2:39 PM, Carns said:

It's never enough! Sam, Roy Hodgson and 'Arry could be a brains trust!

Is that because they have one brain between them?

1 minute ago, Flytox said:

Is that because they have one brain between them?

They're the total package: the tactical nous, the dynamic approach to the game, fresh, new ideas and fantastic tracksuits.