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    Will Wanderers Put FFA Cup Ahead Of All-Stars?


    mack

    OPINION: The Western Sydney Wanderers should withdraw any players selected for the novelty A-League All Stars match.

     

    Earlier today the first 6 players were announced for the FFA's money spinning novelty concept the A-League All Stars. The Western Sydney Wanderers were represented by striker Tomi Juric, who won the club golden boot after scoring 9 goals from 25 appearances in his first season at the club, and Australian national team defender Matthew Spiranovic, who guided the club to the Grand Final and ACL Qualification as well as playing all 3 matches for Australia at the World Cup.

     

    The All Stars match this season takes place on Sunday the 10th of August. The Western Sydney Wanderers start their Football Federation Cup campaign only 2 days later, in Adelaide, on the 12th. The All Stars novelty is just that. A novelty. It is a concept designed to do nothing more than fill the coffers of the FFA. It cannot grow A-League clubs, because no A-League club is playing.

     

    The FFA feel that the A-League clubs are a threat to this circus show, and as such have introduced a "fee" to be paid to the FFA in the amount of a quarter of a million dollars in the event one of the A-League clubs can bring a big European team to Australia on tour, such as the extremely successful match between Melbourne Victory & Liverpool FC of England. This is a pathetic attempt to crowd out A-League clubs from carving their own place in the sporting marketplace.

     

    Instead of the Red Devils vs the Blue Randoms last season, I'd have much preferred to be chanting in the RBB for the Wanderers vs Manchester United, instead of sitting 5 rows from the top of ANZ stadium surrounded by people who wanted to know when Ronaldo was coming on.

     

    The idea that the Wanderers could lose their top scorer and a current Australian international player for a real, competitive fixture so that they can play in what is effectively a testimonial match for a marquee player from our city rivals Sydney FC, is a disgrace.

     

    The point of the FFA Cup, at least according to the FFA, is to 'reconnect the grassroots'. Will Adelaide City feel 'reconnected' or respected when the Wanderers show up without key players because they played in a match that means nothing, for a team that isn't the one they face on the 12th of August?

     

    I call upon the Western Sydney Wanderers to immediately withdraw any selected player from the All Stars squad to completely avoid any chance of injury during the Del Piero Tribute match.

     

    I have contacted the club and asked if the Wanderers are considering withdrawing players, and I hope they are.

     

    Update: The Western Sydney Wanderers have responded to my enquiry. Their official statement follows:

     

    The Club won't be making any statements on player withdrawals at this stage.

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    You make a good point regarding HD, but my point still stands:

    - The main channels always gets more viewers than the other channels

    - Currently, apart from ABC 24 and One, all the other channels are just fillers that don't really stand alone as a TV channel just providing alternative program's to different demographics for each stations other channels

    - This is a one off sporting event, this isn't like sbs getting the rights to the aleague on Friday nights where people associate sbs with football and know they can find football on a Friday night

    - If most of your main big program's are on the main channel, the one that most people check first, wouldn't you want the greatest amount of exposure to your one off product?

    - If you want a product that you bought to get the best ROI wouldn't you want it on the channel that you get the most viewers? Why would advertisers bother advertising on a product in the knowledge the viewership isn't as high? I can guarantee you they would get a hefty discount and the game would have to be filled with freebies (free ads when the paid advertising doesn't reach the target audience they paid for the advertising slot) which makes it a ridiculous ROI for seven?

     

    It is for this reasoning that I question the decision to move it to the next channel and based on the previous history of the way they have treated football and specifically the NSL in the past.

    This is all true, and for the same reason, I still don't understand why A-League games are on SBS 2 instead of SBS 1. The ratings would be higher I'm sure. I also don't really understand why our home derbies aren't live SBS games, they would sell out regardless (I understand why they don't have the ones played at Allianz live on SBS, as people might just be lazy and stay home, which might mean the game won't sell out). Allowing people without Fox to see the Wanderland in full swing on a derby night would be great exposure for the league.

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    Just got an email from ANZ stadium offering purchase of category 1 tix for $70 off.

     

    Oh cool, so that's what... just $230 now?

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    Just got an email from ANZ stadium offering purchase of category 1 tix for $70 off.

     

    Code for...

    1. No one is willing to pony up the dosh for such a plastic event
    2. Even ESFC fans from Leichhardt have a distaste for the match
    3. Wanderers fans aren't going

     

    Agree

     

    Outside of the football community not many people would be attracted to a Juve game like they would a Man U game for example. Given that it looks like the wider football community is not really behind the concept (maybe the Italians have some interest this time), this may die off pretty quickly. Personally id rather go to the Adelaide FFA cup game. 

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    I hope this thing ***** fails in a year or 2.

     

    FTFFA are robbing clubs the advantages of playing pre-season friendlies against teams from Europe.

     

    THis concept will not and not even allow Australian football to grow. This all star concept was a David Gallop idea in the nrl and since he left the nrl, dave smith abandoned it in favour of the nrl 9s because he saw this failing year after year and clubs complaining about players getting injured for a meaningless game.

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    I hope this thing ***** fails in a year or 2.

    FTFFA are robbing clubs the advantages of playing pre-season friendlies against teams from Europe.

    THis concept will not and not even allow Australian football to grow. This all star concept was a David Gallop idea in the nrl and since he left the nrl, dave smith abandoned it in favour of the nrl 9s because he saw this failing year after year and clubs complaining about players getting injured for a meaningless game.

    The NRL indigenous-all star game has nothing to do with the all stars, it's all about the indigenous aboriginal people in rugby league and is promotional game to bring awareness to the inequality in life expectancy and quality of life between indigenous and non-indigenous Australians Edited by Nnnnnathan12

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    So in essence our hands are tied? 

    If the suits at the FTFFA want our players they will get them. Unless a loop hole exists.

     

    Money in the coffers - all helps for their golden hand shake after they leave in a few years and never look back.

     

    Who's left supporting the game? Oh yes - the fans! The fans will always be there, we will just have another suit to deal with who has little/no understanding of the game, and its culture. 

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    What choice does the FFA have?  Tell Ch 7 the game must be on the main channel and have Ch 7 walk away with their money or pocket the money and accept that at least the game is somewhere on FTA?  While ever the FFA doesn't have enough money to properly run the code then they will compromise and take the money.

    The FFA should stand up for themselves (look the all star concept is farked, but that aside) and for football in Australia. Let them put the all star game on the back channels of FTA and then never accept money from them again! Much better if it went to a network who actually gives a toss about football (Fox or SBS) rather than a network who we assume is doing it for ratings.... Oh wait....

     

    The FFA find plenty of ways to make money off the game, only have to look at the way they'll charge each team hosting international domestic teams 250k each that the FFA always make sure they make their cut!

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    Perhaps it's a good thing if it's shown on 7mate. While good for us as it will question the future of the concept, anything under 50,000 is an embarrassment and makes a mockery of it all.

     

    The FFA are like that one kid at school who tried so desperately to fit in. The media say jump, they ask how high...

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    I can assure you last year, the Liverpool MVFC game was on MATE. I can tell you how I remember this. The stupid weak or no signal on the digital TV, meaning we can't watch it. Whereas last years all stars game was on the main channel(Saturday night not a Wednesday like the victory game)

     

    Just for context we had Foxtel Digital, meaning you can only watch the first channels and selected second channels.

     

    I think a lot of people would have this problem as well

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    Just for context we had Foxtel Digital, meaning you can only watch the first channels and selected second channels.

    I think a lot of people would have this problem as well

    Or you can get the HD box, and then fox can charge you an extra $10 a month!! Grrrinds my gears!! Though don't they allow you to watch the secondary channels for free?

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    Update: The Western Sydney Wanderers have responded to my enquiry. Their official statement follows:

     

     

    The Club won't be making any statements on player withdrawals at this stage.

    Mack do you ever feel guilty known the wanderers probably employ 3 people just to deal with your requests :-)

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    **** this stupid All Stars concept.

    FFA should know better than to schedule the FFA Cup (a concept that the footballing public are *actually* excited for) two days before this ADP wankfest.

    FFA's heads are so far up their own arses they need glass stomachs to see.

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    I always thought the reason the ratings were significantly lower on the secondary channels was because they put the 'better' shows on the primary channel. The channel they put it on doesn't matter, it's the amount they promote it.

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    Do the nux and esfcboth have to pay 250 ,000 for the tour of hammers?

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    The FFA could have rescheduled the FFA Cup games if they were tied down to the All-Stars game with Juve and 7. 

     

    But they didn't - what's even more awkward is Gombau having to coach the team and prepare for his own Cup games.

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    i think popa would of told spira get some surgery that way u don't have to play in this mario all stars game and risk chance of more injury which could affect our season.

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    The news says juric is fit to play

    Maybe popa tried to get Tomi out of the training camp and game by saying he is injured but after been assessed by FFA people they didn't buy it so maybe he'll play. What's the bet that he is still recovering from an injury so is unable to play the match so just ends up just missing some decent training sessions with WSW and has to be content with the joke that is the all stars concept!

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    This is all true, and for the same reason, I still don't understand why A-League games are on SBS 2 instead of SBS 1. The ratings would be higher I'm sure. I also don't really understand why our home derbies aren't live SBS games, they would sell out regardless (I understand why they don't have the ones played at Allianz live on SBS, as people might just be lazy and stay home, which might mean the game won't sell out). Allowing people without Fox to see the Wanderland in full swing on a derby night would be great exposure for the league.

    Who wouldn't go to a derby regardless? I don't care if the games on tv, nothing beats outsinging and outplaying the smurfs. In answer to your question, Fox Sports only make friday night games available, and no derbies are ever on fridays. That's why. A-League games are on SBS HD, because it's an HD channel and people like to be able to see which team's got the ball

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    This is all true, and for the same reason, I still don't understand why A-League games are on SBS 2 instead of SBS 1. The ratings would be higher I'm sure. I also don't really understand why our home derbies aren't live SBS games, they would sell out regardless (I understand why they don't have the ones played at Allianz live on SBS, as people might just be lazy and stay home, which might mean the game won't sell out). Allowing people without Fox to see the Wanderland in full swing on a derby night would be great exposure for the league.

    Who wouldn't go to a derby regardless? I don't care if the games on tv, nothing beats outsinging and outplaying the smurfs. In answer to your question, Fox Sports only make friday night games available, and no derbies are ever on fridays. That's why. A-League games are on SBS HD, because it's an HD channel and people like to be able to see which team's got the ball

     

    I'm not talking about the converted, I will be at every derby, but what I meant is in terms of trying to win new supporters, putting it on free to air makes it more likely for us to attract new fans, and we should always be looking to grow our club. Denying derbies to 60% of the population will not do this, particularly when it is becoming one of the premier events in Australian sport. It makes zero sense for the game to be Fox only. Of course being there is better, I would never argue otherwise, and I think you misconstrued the point of the post.

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    Will be interesting to see how many people watch the game on the secondary channel. Let's just wait and see how bad this fails tonight!

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