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    mack

    If I tell you AFL will never, ever be the Number 1 sport in Australia will you inject me with horse peptides?

     

    Ok, that's a bit unfair, I'm not an AFL team looking to circumvent the notion of fair play and the sporting ethic this country is built on in order to win a competition viewed, played and populated largely from, by and in Victoria, but my sentiment doesn't change. Trust me, I haven't tried much at all to alter it.

     

    I haven't bothered watching a game of AFL in person, even with free tickets to pretty much any game in Sydney being available to anyone with even the slightest interest (or disinterest to be honest) in AFL. I have seen a few games on TV (where AFL doesn't measure up in any way as a television sport compared to Rugby League let alone Football), and once tried playing it in school (although I must admit that since everyone got bored after 10 minutes and switched to playing football or league it wasn't the best introduction).

     

    Yes, AFL is (probably) the most popular team sport in Victoria.

     

    Yes, AFL is played in over 2.5 states of Australia.

     

    But show me someone who hasn't found it dead boring at some stage and I'll show you someone who thinks the AFL was telling the truth about their dodgy Auskick numbers in NSW a few years back.

     

    There's a reason that out of the major sporting codes in Australia, it is the AFL with the lowest international reach. The reasons are clear to me.

     

    You might be guaranteed a score if you watch a game of AFL, but only because the goals are so wide and infinitely high. Anyone with even mediocre talent can score. However, even the supposed "elite" of the AFL can

    There is also the routine spectacle of watching teams deliberately throwing the ball through their own goal, gifting their opponents points!

     

    I understand suggesting the Victorian game will never beat Football anywhere in Australia but some areas of Melbourne will be upsetting to those who live in Melbourne, but let's look at the facts.

     

    AFL is a game built on people who if they want to be any good, must set their sights on leaving the outer suburbs of Melbourne to make their way to the big smoke of the inner suburbs of Melbourne. There is only one top flight professional level of AFL across the entire planet, which to me begs the following question: If the AFL is the only top flight league, is it actually a 'top flight' or just the equal worst professional league? Just what is the reward for this gruelling and epic journey along the Melbourne equivalent of the M4? An average yearly salary of $251,559.

     

    No matter the talent an AFL player has, they spend the majority of their time traipsing around Melbourne, with a handful of trips to AFL's far flung global outposts to play against GWS or the Brisbane Bears. Occasionally a 'big name' will make a move to Sydney or Brisbane, but this is generally so the player can live their life in complete and total obscurity to the general population of their new home. The level of athleticism required for AFL is so minor that people who haven't ever played AFL at a high level can switch from another sport and still make millions while being immediately deposited into the 'top flight' of AFL.

     

    Of course, Victorian white guy #1, Victorian white guy #2, Adam Goodes & Victorian white guy #3 show kids everywhere that they too can aspire to be an "All Australian" and lose to a team of amateur (unpaid) Irishmen in a mutant abomination of Gaelic Football and Modified Victorian Gaelic Handegg.

     

    Match attendance is the AFL fan's immediate counter to the notion their sport is unpopular, doomed to fail or simply boring, but crowd averages are on the wane, having fallen by 6,000 over the last few years. Even in the so called 'top flight' of the AFL, GWS, the newest team, launched with a $200 million warchest, have 8 official crowds of under 7000 in only three years. Considering the thousands of free tickets available, their actual paid attendance would be lucky to hit 2000.

     

    Football has grown massively according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics latest research, with participation rates for males aged 5-14 growing from 265,500 in 2006, to 277,800 in 2009 and all the way up to 309,700 in 2012. Compare this to AFL, which includes dodgy Auskick figures in their tallies, and still fell from 2009 with 223,700 down to 212,700 in 2012. Clearly the sports mad young men of Australia are choosing with their feet to play football. Participation among females aged 5-14 is an astounding success for Football, with 87,800 participators in 2012 compared to AFL's 13,800 (which once again includes dodgy Auskick figures).

     

    While the biggest AFL teams will always be the same teams, playing against the exact same other teams year in and year out, Football provides opportunities to see global superstars play in Australia as well as to see our best challenged by the best of countries like Japan, Korea, China & Saudi Arabia, and for Australia as a nation to play in global tournaments such as the Asian Cup & World Cup.

     

    Attendance and global reach isn't the only reason why Football is the better sport. AFL culture runs counter to the Australian ethos of fair play and this includes the private lives of AFL players, with the so called "God" of AFL, Gary Ablett Senior, being responsible for giving heroin, ecstasy & amphetamines to a 19 year old woman named Alicia Horan, who subsequently died of a drug overdose in his hotel room.

     

    The idea of taking dives, king hitting opponents, using performance enhancing peptides, match fixing, or giving starstruck teenagers illegal drugs is just too unpalatable for many bought up on the sense of fair play that Football provides, but that we see time and time again in AFL.

     

    While I'm not a parent, I completely understand those who avoid the disgraceful un-Australian ethos of the sport of AFL and those who play it and instead jump at the chance to play the World Game, the Beautiful Game, the true Australian game of Football.


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    yeah i'm with you gazmon. I'm guessing it's the timing?

    World cup just ended with lots of positives about socceroos, Asian cup coming up, FFA cup in full swing etc etc.

    A few of the bubble heads are just feeling insecure (despite having a bigger comp, more members and bigger crowds). weird.

     

    PS. top stuff mack.

     

    Yeah exactly. The World Cup, International teams touring Australia and the FFA Cup - all in the off season! This surely has ruffled a few feathers with the AFL & NRL journo's who can only discuss drugs, urination and fights in the off-season. Thankfully, football is more than just one league at the back end of the world.

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    yeah i'm with you gazmon. I'm guessing it's the timing?

    World cup just ended with lots of positives about socceroos, Asian cup coming up, FFA cup in full swing etc etc.

    A few of the bubble heads are just feeling insecure (despite having a bigger comp, more members and bigger crowds). weird.

     

    PS. top stuff mack.

    Yeah exactly. The World Cup, International teams touring Australia and the FFA Cup - all in the off season! This surely has ruffled a few feathers with the AFL & NRL journo's who can only discuss drugs, urination and fights in the off-season. Thankfully, football is more than just one league at the back end of the world.

    Yep. Like how all the FFA Cup scores were on the radio today, on mainstream radio.

    Suck it AFL & NRL!

     

    I say that as someone who likes watching both, just sick of their pathetic scribes

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    On a small aside - at my local park.

     

    They had erected AFL goalposts but after two years there wasnt enough juniors to make even a single team. The goalposts are now gone.

     

    There are two football fields used by my local team which has over 30 junior and senior teams.

     

    Football reigns supreme!

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    It seems that everyone is equally precious about their sport, be it expressed through genuine disquiet or an equally insecure attempt at satire.

     

    I'm not a fan of AFL, but I can understand the passion people feel for the game because I feel a degree of passion for our variant of football (and rugby union, for that matter). So tell me, why is there so much scorn for others that simply care about their sport above all others?

     

    Maybe it's just me, but I couldn't care less about any sort of commentary that places one sport on a pedestal. Besides, we have Craig Foster as a champion, so it isn't as though football commentators are any better than those supporting the AFL!

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    What area is this WOC?

    Norwest. Its an area the AFL have invested heavily in to try and mimic their "success" in the hills. But all people of all nationalities be it Anglo, Indians, Philipinos (large Indian and Philo connunities) play football.

     

    The local Blacktown paper did a pie e on an AFL team in Seven Hills. Good luck to them, but it was white bred heaven lol.

     

    Didnt represent the multicultural character of Blacktown.

     

    The best was when I was taking a walk around the park, and a little girl no mpre then 4 or 5 came up to me (I was wearing a Wanderets jumper) and said "go the reds! Im going to Canberra" with the biggest smile on her face.

     

    I thought it was cute. But it also occured to me that her parents just may have fibbed to her lol.

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    What area is this WOC?

    Norwest. Its an area the AFL have invested heavily in to try and mimic their "success" in the hills. But all people of all nationalities be it Anglo, Indians, Philipinos (large Indian and Philo connunities) play football.

     

    The local Blacktown paper did a pie e on an AFL team in Seven Hills. Good luck to them, but it was white bred heaven lol.

     

    Didnt represent the multicultural character of Blacktown.

     

    The best was when I was taking a walk around the park, and a little girl no mpre then 4 or 5 came up to me (I was wearing a Wanderets jumper) and said "go the reds! Im going to Canberra" with the biggest smile on her face.

     

    I thought it was cute. But it also occured to me that her parents just may have fibbed to her lol.

     

    What's your address? What time do you leave for work?.... :ninja:

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    What area is this WOC?

     

    Norwest. Its an area the AFL have invested heavily in to try and mimic their "success" in the hills. But all people of all nationalities be it Anglo, Indians, Philipinos (large Indian and Philo connunities) play football.

    The local Blacktown paper did a pie e on an AFL team in Seven Hills. Good luck to them, but it was white bred heaven lol.

    Didnt represent the multicultural character of Blacktown.

    The best was when I was taking a walk around the park, and a little girl no mpre then 4 or 5 came up to me (I was wearing a Wanderets jumper) and said "go the reds! Im going to Canberra" with the biggest smile on her face.

    I thought it was cute. But it also occured to me that her parents just may have fibbed to her lol.

    What's your address? What time do you leave for work?.... :ninja:

    Ahhhh - thank you for assuming I work.

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    I still don't get why non-Football journalists feel the need to commentate about the our game? I don't see Simon Hill trudging out articles about the NRL or AFL? Yes, they do reference them, but not entire articles.

    Am I right in believing that AFL and NRL journals attack football but not each other?

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    I still don't get why non-Football journalists feel the need to commentate about the our game? I don't see Simon Hill trudging out articles about the NRL or AFL? Yes, they do reference them, but not entire articles.

    Am I right in believing that AFL and NRL journals attack football but not each other?

     

    No it's more like NRL and AFL actually care to think who is the better game and getting a bigger slice of the business pie. Where as us Football fans don't give a toss and know the truth. I also like how FFA don't get involved with their dick measuring contest anymore.

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    Great satire. As someone who enjoys Rugby League and the odd game of AFL, some of the journalists in those codes are absolutely pathetic. Part of the genius of that satire is to point out that that type of article would simply never be written by a football journalist. It's clear football is increasing seen as a threat, which isn't all bad, as it means the game is progressing strongly. It also shows the inferiority complex is alive and well amongst some elements of other codes. It's quite pathetic, ultimately sport of all types is there to be enjoyed, as stated by a previous poster.

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    A s a die hard NRL fan i cant see league completely dissapearing no matter how big football gets there are always going to be people that enjoy a more physical sort of game.

     

    But in saying that AFL can piss right off

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    I still don't get why non-Football journalists feel the need to commentate about the our game? I don't see Simon Hill trudging out articles about the NRL or AFL? Yes, they do reference them, but not entire articles.

    Am I right in believing that AFL and NRL journals attack football but not each other?

    Correct.

     

    Although recently NRL is softening, realising their short falls compared to rising football.

    AFL on the other hand are just dicks.

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    It seems that everyone is equally precious about their sport, be it expressed through genuine disquiet or an equally insecure attempt at satire.

     

    I'm not a fan of AFL, but I can understand the passion people feel for the game because I feel a degree of passion for our variant of football (and rugby union, for that matter). So tell me, why is there so much scorn for others that simply care about their sport above all others?

     

    Maybe it's just me, but I couldn't care less about any sort of commentary that places one sport on a pedestal. Besides, we have Craig Foster as a champion, so it isn't as though football commentators are any better than those supporting the AFL!

    we have one anti afl reporter who openly attacks the afl .....they have about 20,000 anti sokkah journalists :P

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    I think the way many Australians look at sport is changing.

     

    Traditionally people got excited about say a big scoring NRL game. Manly 32-18 Cronulla... brilliant game, big hits.

     

    Many still do.

     

    But there is I think I growing number of people who after been exposed to football see these games as poor.

     

    Its not a good game. It tells you both defences and team structures were sh it house.

     

    As a football person this is how I personally view these games. I remember last year watching a tight game of Union. I think the final score was 8-4 or something. It was a brillaint tactical battle.

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    What's AFL? Another ***** Loser? Or is it just an outbreak of something that couldn't be quite contained in Melbourne?

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    What area is this WOC?

    Norwest. Its an area the AFL have invested heavily in to try and mimic their "success" in the hills. But all people of all nationalities be it Anglo, Indians, Philipinos (large Indian and Philo connunities) play football.

     

    The local Blacktown paper did a pie e on an AFL team in Seven Hills. Good luck to them, but it was white bred heaven lol.

     

    Didnt represent the multicultural character of Blacktown.

     

    The best was when I was taking a walk around the park, and a little girl no mpre then 4 or 5 came up to me (I was wearing a Wanderets jumper) and said "go the reds! Im going to Canberra" with the biggest smile on her face.

     

    I thought it was cute. But it also occured to me that her parents just may have fibbed to her lol.

     

    I've been trying to pull down them afl posts for ages, everytime i drive past there i would stop pull out my pot plate spade and try to dig around the poles hoping that one day they would fall down!!

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    It seems that everyone is equally precious about their sport, be it expressed through genuine disquiet or an equally insecure attempt at satire.

     

    I'm not a fan of AFL, but I can understand the passion people feel for the game because I feel a degree of passion for our variant of football (and rugby union, for that matter). So tell me, why is there so much scorn for others that simply care about their sport above all others?

     

    Maybe it's just me, but I couldn't care less about any sort of commentary that places one sport on a pedestal. Besides, we have Craig Foster as a champion, so it isn't as though football commentators are any better than those supporting the AFL!

    There is so much scorn because the manner in which they hold their chosen sport aloft. Any argument which completely skips hard facts (eg participation numbers) is deemed a failure, and yet these stories get published. Its pretty poor if you need to demean others to make yourself appear better, and thats what a lot of the AFL journos do.

     

    We are pretty touchy when all media likes to report are our "hooligans" with flares or rampant fan violence.

    There wasn't a mention when there were more arrests and kick-outs from State of Origin game 3 than the entire A-League season. Oh and there was a fatal shooting at a pub which was connected to the SoO (was reported but without the outcry).

     

    All we want is fairness and common sense. Its great seeing the established squirm awkwardly but it would be nice to be treated with a bit of respect (which does exist...every 4 years when everyones a WC expert)

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