Jaushua Sotirio

I no longer think he's the worst player on our team

I no longer think he's the worst player on our team

Would you have him start instead of Jumpei today?

I no longer think he's the worst player on our team

We have Borda for that

 

 

I no longer think he's the worst player on our team

Would you have him start instead of Jumpei today?

I have been down on Jumpei but he actually had a good game last week, I'd stick with him for this one but play sotirio next week, when we will need his workrate. I'm getting into this tactical stuff me

Two more years of this brainless ****.

He only played as much as he did because our senior attacking players have been so poor.

He is still young, create chances, gets himself in position, scored a few goals, and yes, he makes poor decisions. He was also way more effective than Bulut Scott Griffith Jumpei or Lustica.

Had he been banging in the goals as people expect him too he'd be on a plane to Europe in June.

He's cheap, he'll develop, and he'll push any senior player for a spot in the squad.

A home grown squaddie. No more, no less.

Wish he'd have taken notice of Santa last night n calmed down a bit .

He is still young, create chances, gets himself in position, scored a few goals, and yes, he makes poor decisions. He was also way more effective than Bulut Scott Griffith Jumpei or Lustica.

Bulut scored the same amount of goals (5) in half a season as Sotirio has in 4 seasons. I'm pretty sure Lachlan Scott has more goals this season across all competitions than Sotirio does.

When Maclaren was 21 he scored 9 goals for the Roar so that just makes me a bit tired of the "oh he's young" logic for other A-League players, like a 21 year old shouldn't be expected to contribute to an A-League team despite having been with us for 4 years.

Sotirio is turning into the definition of sunk cost fallacy, where the club has invested so much time and energy into him that they aren't willing to do the right thing for the team and cut him.

Oh, come on, Mack. If you want to talk stats: 

When McLaren joined Glory from Blackburn he was 20, played 18 games for Perth (13/14) and scored two goals in 1.103 minutes.

Sotirio was 20/21 this season, played 20 games for WSW and scored three goals in 938 minutes.

Scott is now 20, played 18 games for WSW and scored one goal in 659 minutes.

As for Bulut: if you take his five minutes of WSW glory away then he had three goals in six years as a professional footballer.

Take it easy on the kid. After the GF last year you were ready to feed Baccus to the lions. What a difference a year can make.

Baccus has improved immensely since the airport altercation. Somehow I don't get the impression that there is that same room for improvement with Sotirio. He'd be better off trying his luck at NPL1 rather than wasting a spot in our squad.

Also Baccus improved by getting more game-time, because our foreign midfield duo suck.

Sotirio is 10th for most appearances for the Wanderers.

How is Sotirio a professional footballer? Some people are stealing a living.

Baccus has improved immensely since the airport altercation. Somehow I don't get the impression that there is that same room for improvement with Sotirio. He'd be better off trying his luck at NPL1 rather than wasting a spot in our squad.

Sotirio is what 21 going on 22 now, not consider a young raw recruit any longer, at that stage where he should be on the verge on cementing down a regular starting 11 place, so many miles away from that on ability and temperament...

Wrap him up and post him to the Mariners. 

i thought sotty had improved

Baccus has always had a good touch and technique. He just wasn't using it in a way that would influence games. This season he started doing that. Sotirio has none of that. Headless chicken.

@magicwand asked me to address why I thought Sotirio has potential

"As far as I'm concerned he's been absolutely atrocious but obviously Popa and Gombau (and you) see something in him. I'd love to know what it is..... it totally escapes me! Your reply to (1) has a convergence with (4).... he tends to put himself in said **** positions due the football vacancy between his ears. I'd love an explanation as to how a football brain and indecision is "hammered out" of a player. Points 2 and 3 are basic skills he should have mastered in junior football and have nothing to do with systems. I'd like to add a couple of more deficiencies.... he's a poor dribbler (but unfortunately continues to persist) and he's lightweight i.e. he gets pushed off the ball way too easily... even for a "young" footballer. Hopefully this coming season will reveal all that Popa, Gombau and yourself see in him but I doubt it."

Okay so I think his first redeeming quality is that he's an out and out athlete. He's got an unbelievable motor.

But to your points - yes, his passing needs work, and yes his ball retention needs work. Obviously not good for a supposedly professional player. The reason why I don't see these as an issue YET is because most of his 50 odd games have come playing in a system that doesn't suit the type of player that he is. He's a bit similar to someone like Mitch Austin, a player who will never play well in tight spaces like Martinez. Austin and Sotirio love to have the ball out in front of them.

I mentioned that in R17 or so, when Antonis changed the dynamic of our play and started pushing the ball high fast, Sotirio found himself in space a lot. Now any player will find himself in space if you have Antonis feeding you dream steam powered balls from 25m away but his (Sotirio) mentality was to immediately attack the open space. What he does with it in space is where I talked about 'hammering the stupid out of him'. Most players don't automatically know how to position themselves or attack the right area to find a good shooting angle when there are defenders closing down space from a smart angle. Just look at his horrible finish in the first few minutes of the derby. Many ex players have been critical of our (very shitty) dutch youth system since it doesn't focus on scoring goals, and Sotirio is mostly a product of that. I think having him focus on concentration and finish drills will bring out the best in him.

Re his lightweight nature. I don't think this will be a problem for much longer. He has looked off when you compare him to guys like Borrello but he looked far more impressive last season as he looked increasingly aggressive. He will learn how to use his considerable strength to knock his opponents around.
 

In short, I dont think WSW is the place for him to develop any further if we continue playing the way we do. He was fantastic for the U23 scoring 3 in 6 and he was one of the stand out players. I just dont think he will see enough game time in the next 2 season to get a real hit out

Mitch Austin is a good name to bring up, because he's basically Sotirio + 5 years. Even playing for Victory who suit his type of game, he hasn't set the world on fire and probably never will, and will get worse as his career goes on and his pace drops. If he gets a bad leg injury like an ACL, then his career is basically done. For all the hype over Ibini, he broke his leg on day one of his stint in Belgium, he comes back 12 months later, but he'll never be the same, looks like he's going to fail in the MLS and he'll end up right back in the A-League probably in January or next season.

Adrian Zahra, Tahj Minniecon, Mitch Austin, Connor Pain, Kwabena Appiah, Bruce Kamau... the A-League was/is full of players who are quick but won't score 5+ goals a season. And every year managers will see a young kid, go "wow, he's super quick" and instead of telling them they should join an athletics club, think they can somehow turn a technically mediocre player into an A-League quality player.

Meanwhile the best attacking/wide players in the league have never needed lightning quickness.

Excellent post mack !!

So I could call that a mixed night for Sotirio.

On one hand, he won a penalty, and should have won another if not for a typically garbage A-League ref.

On the other, he had a chance through on goal with the keeper out of position that if his shot was remotely powerful he would have beat the keeper and scored, he fired a shot from about a meter from the goal straight into the diving keeper instead of either kicking it into the roof of the net or taking a touch and passing around the diving keeper, he had a great chance to shoot on the edge of the area in the second half that he sent into the car park, and had a great moment that summed up his night when he took a touch about 5 meters inside the field of play, that was so bad it went straight out for a throw-in, and the commentators thought he'd done it deliberately so Jumpei who was lying on the ground could get treatment.

Jaushua won both 2nd half penalties.

He also should have had one in the 1st half, when cleaned up by the GK

Maybe we have found his skill. Just get him to run around in the box at full pace somewhere in the vicinity of the ball and wait for someone to lunge in.

6 hours ago, Taurus said:

Jaushua won both 2nd half penalties.

He also should have had one in the 1st half, when cleaned up by the GK

Won 2 pens and could have scored 4 goals

- 1 on 1 with keeper

- Keeper save from point blank range (he should have gave him no chance)

- airswing following up from the missed pen

- puts the ball into the car park 

he did well to win the pens, and had some other good moments like creating the 1 on  with keeper, but his finishing was poor

I thought Lustica was good when he came on, he's a smart player 

Loan him go Wenger 

he will think he is the new Walcott as soon as he sees how fast he can run 

Recent reports suggested that he's an improved player of late so I was very interested to see how he went last night. Alas, as far as I'm concerned it was the same old Sotirio !!

2 hours ago, FCB said:

What's with all the Sotirio "love" so early in the season? Still only 21 years old, more effective and promising last year than our Japanese ex-marquee ((cough) - for probably a quarter of the money.

When Karl-Heinz Rummenigge was the same age he was considered quite useless. He really butchered chances. And then something clicked.

I am not saying that there is a Rummenigge hidden underneath the Sotirio surface. But I really wonder what some of you guys are expecting.

Talk about Rummenigge...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egLUB1JXUwI

Thought this was a worthwhile addition,

ps Still president of the Sotirio Appreciation Society  

That's his worst game since the Brisbane game.

Compare Malia's game to sotirio

1 hour ago, StringerBellend said:

Compare Malia's game to sotirio

In the second half I commented that Blacktown had some players better than Sotirio. Then in extra time we moved spots and when Sotirio went down I said "well if he's injured we can sign one of their better players as a replacement." My mate replied "we could make a straight swap now".

I hadn't realised the guys in front of us were Blacktown until one of them turned and said "mate we don't want him".

LOL

still better than jumpei

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4 hours ago, Zakman said:

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Soteriophobia is a psychological condition which causes a person to refuse depending on others out of fear of being disappointed.

1:51 AM - 24 Sep 2017

You disappoint me.