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  • VAR Steals 3 Points For Adelaide


    mack

    The Western Sydney Wanderers fell to their 5th loss on the trot after an awful VAR decision handed Adelaide United an undeserved 2-1 win.

    With a host of players out of action due to injury or suspension, Markus Babbel elected to play a 5 at the back formation, bringing Mathieu Cordier, Rashid Mahazi & Jausua Sotirio into the starting lineup.

    8 minutes into the game Adelaide opened the scoring. A long ball over the top found Craig Goodwin, after he brought the ball back onto his right foot, he laid it into the path of Vince Lia, and he blasted a rocket through Nick Suman's hands.

    Not long after the half-time interval, Roly Bonevacia scored a superb equaliser. The Wanderers won a foul on the edge of the penalty area, and Bonevacia was going to do nothing but shoot on goal. He fired a perfect free kick up and over the wall with just enough power & direction that it dipped under the cross bar for 1-1.

    With an hour gone it looked like both sides could have taken all three points, but it ended up being Adelaide United with an assist from a blind linesman and a VAR booth that was as useless as a Maccas VAR frappe machine on a hot day. Michael Marrone attacked down the right flank, he drew Cordier before feeding the ball to Nikola Mileusnic, he launched the ball across the penalty area, finding Goodwin who managed to fly the ball through the eye of a needle, going between Tate Russel's legs, avoiding Tarek Elrich and leaving Suman no chance at all.

    The VAR had vanished off the face of the planet. As Wanderers fans well know whenever their team has scored a goal the VAR will spend long minutes scrutinising every frame for potential infringements to take the goal away from the Red & Black, but tonight it was the opposite. There was no apparent checking done at all. The linesman, and the VAR, had missed a simple and clear offside by Mileusnic when he received the ball from Marrone. Late in the game the referee & VAR also ignored a clear penalty to the Wanderers.

    For a system that spent 5 minutes coming up with a reason to chalk off Roly Bonevacia's goal in the Round 2 Sydney Derby, it was a baffling omission, an inexplicable failure to correct a blatantly obvious error. This week the FFA came out in the press, unable to figure out just why people were tuning out of the A-League this summer. It is clear and obvious that part of the reason is the incredibly poor standard of the officials. The are continually making major errors, the referees and VAR since it's introduction have favoured the two A-League teams that play in Sky Blue, and and they hold grudges against coaches & players who speak out against the low standard.

    It's time for the new FFA Chairman to take action, and fire Ben Wilson the incompetent head of A-League Referees, and ensure that Kris Griffths Jones is never put on another Wanderers game again. When the VAR didn't exist the referees had the fallback that they are only human and that mistakes are inevitable. Now with the VAR, there are too many mistakes being made and they are being backed up by too many excuses from the FFA. It's not even the first time Adelaide have benefited from the VAR not bothering to overturn a clear offside.

    Watching a team fail of their own volition is hard enough to take but that's what football fans sign up for. The systemic failures that exist in a protocol intended to correct such mistakes is a truly galling experience, and one that saps one of the will to bother watching our home league. It can't go on like this.

    The Wanderers play Melbourne City next Tuesday in Melbourne at 7:50PM EDT.


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    unbelievable from Ben Wilson with ONE admission of error.

    In this incident the VAR checked for a possible offside in the lead up to the goal. The VAR does not use the Fox Sports offside line because it is not calibrated or considered accurate enough to use for decision making purposes. Using the camera angles available, the VAR determined that the assistant referee’s decision that Nikola Mileusnic was onside was not clearly wrong.

    As part of the round review, the Referees Department has determined that Mileusnic was in an offside position. This meets the threshold for clearly and obviously wrong and the VAR should have recommended that the goal be disallowed.

    Later in the same match there was also a potential penalty for the Wanderers not awarded.

    In this incident there was contact between Mathieu Cordier and Ryan Strain in the Adelaide United penalty area. The referee judged that this was normal side-on-side contact between two players jostling for the ball and allowed play to continue. The VAR determined that the referee’s decision was not clearly wrong and the decision was upheld.

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    The attacking player getting smashed after he kicked the ball around the defender = normal contact.

    What camera angle were they using that couldn't see that obvious offside? Fox Sports showed as good an angle as you're ever going to see, the side on as the first replay, and anyone with two working eyes (and possibly less) could see it was obviously offside.

    But VAR didn't see that angle? But somehow they found an angle a day later for their "review" that only then did they realise "whoops it was offside".

    I bet they are covering up another technical failure.

    They also missed O'Neill's reckless stomp before Hoffman got sent off, but their review decided because it was "accidental" it was okay. So apparently now you can go in two footed if you're going for the ball and it's okay as long as you 'accidentally' break someone's legs.

    And KGJ remains for our game against City. Despite his multiple **** ups that cost us games.

    Then regarding Gosford where the ref ignored the linesman several times, they claim that they want to "let the play go" on close offsides. And I think "What, so you can **** up the VAR review like what happened to us? or to Newcastle in the grand final." My question, if the ref ignores an offside flagging, play continues, does the VAR then have to see a "clear and obvious error"?

    When a ref ignores the linesman flagging & a goal is scored, does the "clear and obvious error" become overturning the offside call the ref ignored, or is it overturning the non-call? Because that's important when you aren't looking for the actual 'truth' but instead only supposedly overturning 'clear errors'.

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    45 minutes ago, mack said:

    They also missed O'Neill's reckless stomp before Hoffman got sent off, but their review decided because it was "accidental" it was okay. So apparently now you can go in two footed if you're going for the ball and it's okay as long as you 'accidentally' break someone's legs.

    Here is their explanation 

    In Sydney Jason Hoffman received a red card, can you talk us through that incident? In this incident there was a clean challenge between Brandon O’Neill and Jason Hoffman. Brandon O’Neill then accidentally steps on Jason Hoffman’s leg while he is on the ground. This is missed by the on-field match officials but it is not a red card offence. Hoffman then deliberately kicks out at O’Neill contacting his upper leg. The referee was looking directly at Hoffman, sees this action and sends Hoffman from the field for violent conduct. The MRP has subsequently classified it as serious unsporting conduct which carries a lower minimum sanction

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    21 minutes ago, Paul01 said:

    Here is their explanation 

    In Sydney Jason Hoffman received a red card, can you talk us through that incident? In this incident there was a clean challenge between Brandon O’Neill and Jason Hoffman. Brandon O’Neill then accidentally steps on Jason Hoffman’s leg while he is on the ground. This is missed by the on-field match officials but it is not a red card offence. Hoffman then deliberately kicks out at O’Neill contacting his upper leg. The referee was looking directly at Hoffman, sees this action and sends Hoffman from the field for violent conduct. The MRP has subsequently classified it as serious unsporting conduct which carries a lower minimum sanction

    A joke right!

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    The mind just boggles at the level of incompetence,  bias and arse covering involved with refereeing in the a league 

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    And who determines that it was accidentals. In my younger years i played with individuals who would be masters of falling over opponents and stomp them on the way down and made it look accidental. We were only 10m away from the action and couldn't tell...

    Also strikers who would lightly elbiw opponents when jumping for a header and you also couldn't tell.

    Like most of the technical fouls esfc commit - these are tought and practiced...  (cunning arnold methods)

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