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marron

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9 minutes ago, theseeker said:

Geez I'm glad you are not a Wanderers defender. Never seen anyone score so many own goals.

The article you quote  dated 22/6 , first sentence in bold type says no mass outbreaks. What a joke , do you hear the news or read the papers about what's happening in Victoria and now NSW is getting worrying.

The demos should have been stopped , what did they achieve ? It's the same old crowd preaching to the converted.

Julia Gillard has been getting a mention. Remember the Australia Day aboriginal demo when she was attacked by demonstrators , had to be cuddled by security and lost her shoe. The pictures were flashed all over the world. One of the most humiliating things a politician could endure and she was a Labor Prime Minister !

The demonstrators would have been part of the  selfish bastards who took part in the BLM demos.

 

Can you point me to the latest info on Covid that shows it lies dormant for a month now?

As for the Gillard stuff - what are you on about? The protestors made the PM look bad? But they only looked bad because they were Labor? You've charged out of your area again Vedran....

 

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theseeker

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4 minutes ago, marron said:

Can you point me to the latest info on Covid that shows it lies dormant for a month now?

As for the Gillard stuff - what are you on about? The protestors made the PM look bad? But they only looked bad because they were Labor? You've charged out of your area again Vedran....

 

As usual have trouble understanding your posts.

What's this month garbage ? The Victorian outbreaks started earlier than that.

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wendybr

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4 minutes ago, theseeker said:

As usual have trouble understanding your posts.

What's this month garbage ? The Victorian outbreaks started earlier than that.

Pretty sure Marron is referring to no big outbreaks a fortnight after (or maybe?? for a month after)  the BLM protests.

I think this 2nd wave has been recognised as largely stemming from biosecurity breeches at the quarantine hotels n Melbourne...hasn't it?

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seeker, you said that the spikes we are seeing now are a result of the BLM protests.

This would have to be because

a) the protests had large numbers of people congregating, thus spreading the disease

OR

b) the protests happening encouraged others to congregate, later.

 

I pointed out that, for a)

- the protests, a month ago, did not lead to any spikes. If the protests had led to spikes, directly, we would have seen those spikes earlier than now. This is backed up by evidence from the experts, saying, the protests have not led to spikes. The spikes we are seeing now in Victoria, and in NSW (with the Casual pub) have nothing to do with the protests.

 

And for b)

- I honestly thought this was your main point, but you seem to be doubling down on a). Anyway, people were travelling long distance - a remarkably selfish and dangerous thing to do - before the protests were given permission to go ahead. The idea that people saw the protests and went "Oh, I can go back to normal now", is simply not true. People were already champing at that bit.

 

Of course, the government have been easing restrictions across that time, slowly. They are the ones who can actually control this stuff if they choose. Otherwise, people are going to go and do what they want to do. My place was packed yesterday with people not social distancing, pushing in lines, being dickheads, despite the clear spike. I'm sure they were doing that because of those nasty lefties in the city that one time, but then, I didn't really feel like stopping people to ask.

 

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theseeker

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4 minutes ago, marron said:

seeker, you said that the spikes we are seeing now are a result of the BLM protests.

This would have to be because

a) the protests had large numbers of people congregating, thus spreading the disease

OR

b) the protests happening encouraged others to congregate, later.

 

I pointed out that, for a)

- the protests, a month ago, did not lead to any spikes. If the protests had led to spikes, directly, we would have seen those spikes earlier than now. This is backed up by evidence from the experts, saying, the protests have not led to spikes. The spikes we are seeing now in Victoria, and in NSW (with the Casual pub) have nothing to do with the protests.

 

And for b)

- I honestly thought this was your main point, but you seem to be doubling down on a). Anyway, people were travelling long distance - a remarkably selfish and dangerous thing to do - before the protests were given permission to go ahead. The idea that people saw the protests and went "Oh, I can go back to normal now", is simply not true. People were already champing at that bit.

 

Of course, the government have been easing restrictions across that time, slowly. They are the ones who can actually control this stuff if they choose. Otherwise, people are going to go and do what they want to do. My place was packed yesterday with people not social distancing, pushing in lines, being dickheads, despite the clear spike. I'm sure they were doing that because of those nasty lefties in the city that one time, but then, I didn't really feel like stopping people to ask.

 

 

4 minutes ago, marron said:

seeker, you said that the spikes we are seeing now are a result of the BLM protests.

This would have to be because

a) the protests had large numbers of people congregating, thus spreading the disease

OR

b) the protests happening encouraged others to congregate, later.

 

I pointed out that, for a)

- the protests, a month ago, did not lead to any spikes. If the protests had led to spikes, directly, we would have seen those spikes earlier than now. This is backed up by evidence from the experts, saying, the protests have not led to spikes. The spikes we are seeing now in Victoria, and in NSW (with the Casual pub) have nothing to do with the protests.

 

And for b)

- I honestly thought this was your main point, but you seem to be doubling down on a). Anyway, people were travelling long distance - a remarkably selfish and dangerous thing to do - before the protests were given permission to go ahead. The idea that people saw the protests and went "Oh, I can go back to normal now", is simply not true. People were already champing at that bit.

 

Of course, the government have been easing restrictions across that time, slowly. They are the ones who can actually control this stuff if they choose. Otherwise, people are going to go and do what they want to do. My place was packed yesterday with people not social distancing, pushing in lines, being dickheads, despite the clear spike. I'm sure they were doing that because of those nasty lefties in the city that one time, but then, I didn't really feel like stopping people to ask.

 

Both (a) and (b).

In a crowd of 10,000 there MUST have been people with covid who probably didn't care , or more likely demonstrators who were asymptomatic.

How anyone can defend these demos in a pandemic situation is just madness.

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wendybr

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8 minutes ago, theseeker said:

 

Both (a) and (b).

In a crowd of 10,000 there MUST have been people with covid who probably didn't care , or more likely demonstrators who were asymptomatic.

How anyone can defend these demos in a pandemic situation is just madness.

The timing wasnt ideal...actually, the timing couldn't have been worse,  but  the protests really didnt lead to any spikes! Rates were low at that time.

Yes...I think 2 people who were later diagnosed did attend the Melb rally, but really, I am unaware of it spreading amongst people who attended the protest. And people WERE watching for a spike a fortnight later.

I partly agree with you, as well as with Marron.

The protests could have contributed to a misguided sense that it was OK to break out and participate in bigger gatherings, but people WERE already thinking that we were through it, and were starting to become complacent about being in bigger groups, and dropping the physical distancing.

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theseeker

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37 minutes ago, wendybr said:

The timing wasnt ideal...actually, the timing couldn't have been worse,  but  the protests really didnt lead to any spikes! Rates were low at that time.

Yes...I think 2 people who were later diagnosed did attend the Melb rally, but really, I am unaware of it spreading amongst people who attended the protest. And people WERE watching for a spike a fortnight later.

I partly agree with you, as well as with Marron.

The protests could have contributed to a misguided sense that it was OK to break out and participate in bigger gatherings, but people WERE already thinking that we were through it, and were starting to become complacent about being in bigger groups, and dropping the physical distancing.

Yeah , well my final word on this.

It was like organizing an orgy in the middle of a venereal disease epidemic.

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3 minutes ago, theseeker said:

Yeah , well my final word on this.

It was like organizing an orgy in the middle of a venereal disease epidemic.

It was definitely bad timing...wherever it was happening.

Hopefully, there are lasting mind shifts/improvements as a result of the global protests.

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StringerBellend

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On 14/07/2020 at 10:31 AM, wendybr said:

 

I think this 2nd wave has been recognised as largely stemming from biosecurity breeches at the quarantine hotels n Melbourne...hasn't it?

It has but not by Judith, it doesnt fit his bias

Given that Judith doesn't fundamently believe that inequality exists in Australia, I might be wrong but I think his sudden concern about the spread of Covid amongst protestors is sligthty disengenuous 

There is no proven link at this point between the BLM protests and the recent outrbreak in Melbourne. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-53259356

Not that I think it was good timing, with COVID, but I'm not sure you can pick when a officer is going to be caught on camera murdering someboy and then triggering a movement

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3 hours ago, theseeker said:

                                                                                                     ? !

Your it must have been the protests isn't supported by evidence but it doesn't stop you

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I think the general consensus is that there was no transmission during the BLM protest especially 2 weeks later and they relaxed restrictions, but I also think everyone thought it was ok especially with no community transmissions.

If it was my 2 cents it looks like despite the Victorian stricter rules they didn't really contain the virus and enforce rules of intentional travelers like the other states using private security especially with all the stories coming out. So the virus lurked under until it didn't, also hearing stories that staff  virus tracers from SA and NSW actually do O/T to help Victoria with their tracing program.

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theseeker

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24 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

Your it must have been the protests isn't supported by evidence but it doesn't stop you

Come out from under your rock. Victorian Health authorities have confirmed the link you fool. Link to 242 cases they admit to. Actual number probably be many more knowing how the  Peoples Socialist Republic of Victoria operates.

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Wanderboy

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17 minutes ago, theseeker said:

Come out from under your rock. Victorian Health authorities have confirmed the link you fool. Link to 242 cases they admit to. Actual number probably be many more knowing how the  Peoples Socialist Republic of Victoria operates.

 

Yeah , well my final word on this.

 

You've now lost all credibility.

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theseeker

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1 minute ago, Wanderboy said:

 

 

 

You've now lost all credibility.

Another fool. That was my final word for yesterday. 

Anyway I couldn't give a twopenny stuff about what you think about my credibility because I think you have no credibility. But glad you follow my posts so intensely.

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