Melbourne Heart vs Western Sydney Wanderers 8/11/2013 7:30PM

To this day, I still havent worked out why they even created MH....

 

We had one crowd of close to 7K at the start of the season, when people were still sounding out what the club was about, plus it was torrential rain.

 

You guys just turn up for 3 games of the year and its prolly 80/20 victory to heart supporters.

 

Even ESFC have more identity than MH.

Dude, nemoj zajebavat. I'll repeat: success does amazing things to a club. How would another West Sydney team do if it was brought into the A-league?

 

 

If you wanna have a real giggle go take a geek at the Heart-less forum...between the agonised cries of 'not going', 'wanna lose', 'Aloisi out' and 'let's invade the away end' it's like the Cove's rants but without the numerous references to Centrelink/Housos/Dole Bludgers/Westies...

I wanted to be civil but i really can't stand this club, no identity, thugs for supporters who couldn't care less about the results of the team. Terrible coach, terrible marquees, terrible attendances (can't blame the people from melbourne for not supporting them when they have an actual legitimate team to support), general all round heartless club who can not be shown the door out of the A-League fast enough. Only club in the A-League who i could not care less for if they folded or handed their license in.

 

F*ck off Heart, South Melbourne/Geelong in.

 

For any of our own who have made the trip stay safe and be careful in the pubs would not surprise me if those Yarraside peasants start dramas out there on friday night, because we all know their football and active support isn't going to do the talking.

 

Rant over.

 

... i shouldn't have rewatched the video of the incident we had down their last time. 

 

 

So you would rather have South Melbourne in the A-league that attracts a crowd of 2,000 to play in the A-league? Sorry, Greek boy, but the whole purpose of the A-league was not to have ethnic teams in it. You guys were getting under 10k including one game that had 6k until you started winning. See what success does to a club? I'm glad WSW are in the A-league and the crowd and excitment they bring, but f* me, grow up and support the A-league regardless which teams are in there. MH and MV share the same stadium and same radius of the city so it does take time to build a club considering those factors. We don't have a "West" Melbourne like they do in Sydney.

 

And you might want to do some research before you comment on the incident when the two teams met last. The guy that threw the punch is a MV supporter.

 

May the best team win.

 

Melbourne don't have a 'west Sydney' hey, rubbish of course you do. Might not be in west Melbourne but there are areas of Melbourne that are quite similar in many respects to west Sydney. The fact that MV and MH share the same stadium and the same radius is at the root of the problem surely.

MV and MH don't really represent any part of Melbourne or any part of a community, just two clubs playing out of the same stadium after the same fans on the same territory. There are ESFC fans in the west of Sydney but  there is a big distinction between ESFC and WSW that will never exist between MV and MH. It would have been better if they had introduced a team in Geelong rather than MH.

And I was at that game against Brisbane in December last year that drew 6,000. The weather was shocking that day. I know it is an excuse but that is the way is was, turned many away.

 

 

If you wanna have a real giggle go take a geek at the Heart-less forum...between the agonised cries of 'not going', 'wanna lose', 'Aloisi out' and 'let's invade the away end' it's like the Cove's rants but without the numerous references to Centrelink/Housos/Dole Bludgers/Westies...

I wanted to be civil but i really can't stand this club, no identity, thugs for supporters who couldn't care less about the results of the team. Terrible coach, terrible marquees, terrible attendances (can't blame the people from melbourne for not supporting them when they have an actual legitimate team to support), general all round heartless club who can not be shown the door out of the A-League fast enough. Only club in the A-League who i could not care less for if they folded or handed their license in.

 

F*ck off Heart, South Melbourne/Geelong in.

 

For any of our own who have made the trip stay safe and be careful in the pubs would not surprise me if those Yarraside peasants start dramas out there on friday night, because we all know their football and active support isn't going to do the talking.

 

Rant over.

 

... i shouldn't have rewatched the video of the incident we had down their last time. 

 

 

So you would rather have South Melbourne in the A-league that attracts a crowd of 2,000 to play in the A-league? Sorry, Greek boy, but the whole purpose of the A-league was not to have ethnic teams in it. You guys were getting under 10k including one game that had 6k until you started winning. See what success does to a club? I'm glad WSW are in the A-league and the crowd and excitment they bring, but f* me, grow up and support the A-league regardless which teams are in there. MH and MV share the same stadium and same radius of the city so it does take time to build a club considering those factors. We don't have a "West" Melbourne like they do in Sydney.

 

And you might want to do some research before you comment on the incident when the two teams met last. The guy that threw the punch is a MV supporter.

 

May the best team win.

 

Everyone goes on about that 6k game like it is evidence that somehow we could have ended up a basketcase. It's funny how though they round it off at 6k, rather than 7k (actual crowd was around 6.9k). The second thing to note is that all our other crowds during that glum first up period for us was above 8k, which suggests we had a main core of around 8k supporters at the time. We also had to contend with the ADP marketing blitz SFC was using to attract people to thier games. We only had some Japanese guy called Shinji Ono..

The whole point anyway is that WSW would have got supporters whether they had success in the first year or 5th year. Of course they would have come when we started winning. The term 'Western Sydney' means something to people. It is the anti-bling, anti-egotistical love in that ESFC represents. It has a heap of football tradition which we can look back on. It represensts honest, decent, hard working, real people who long to support a football club in their region.

So what does Melbourne Heart stand for? I don't want to see them go, but there is no evidence that if they get success the crowds will start flocking in. I can assure you it is not easy. People don't realise the amount of new fans that WSW picked up on its journey last year. It is vastly underestimated. A lot of football supporters fromm West Sydney who supported SFC are still supporting them. Don't let the SFC fans fool you as if there are all these turncoats who now support WSW (who once supported SFC). One of the big things WSW doesn't get credit enough for is bringing new fans to the game.

Good luck to MH, but don't go comparing us with yourselves. The problem with your club is that you don't have an identity as yet. You just have a nice emblem and kit, and once played some nice football. We knew who we were from the beginning (win, lose or draw). I can understand why people talk about Sth Melbourne, because it would create an old soccer vs new football rivalry in Melbourne. At least you would imagine there would be some feeling there in the Derby games.

 

 

 

If you wanna have a real giggle go take a geek at the Heart-less forum...between the agonised cries of 'not going', 'wanna lose', 'Aloisi out' and 'let's invade the away end' it's like the Cove's rants but without the numerous references to Centrelink/Housos/Dole Bludgers/Westies...

I wanted to be civil but i really can't stand this club, no identity, thugs for supporters who couldn't care less about the results of the team. Terrible coach, terrible marquees, terrible attendances (can't blame the people from melbourne for not supporting them when they have an actual legitimate team to support), general all round heartless club who can not be shown the door out of the A-League fast enough. Only club in the A-League who i could not care less for if they folded or handed their license in.

 

F*ck off Heart, South Melbourne/Geelong in.

 

For any of our own who have made the trip stay safe and be careful in the pubs would not surprise me if those Yarraside peasants start dramas out there on friday night, because we all know their football and active support isn't going to do the talking.

 

Rant over.

 

... i shouldn't have rewatched the video of the incident we had down their last time. 

 

 

So you would rather have South Melbourne in the A-league that attracts a crowd of 2,000 to play in the A-league? Sorry, Greek boy, but the whole purpose of the A-league was not to have ethnic teams in it. You guys were getting under 10k including one game that had 6k until you started winning. See what success does to a club? I'm glad WSW are in the A-league and the crowd and excitment they bring, but f* me, grow up and support the A-league regardless which teams are in there. MH and MV share the same stadium and same radius of the city so it does take time to build a club considering those factors. We don't have a "West" Melbourne like they do in Sydney.

 

And you might want to do some research before you comment on the incident when the two teams met last. The guy that threw the punch is a MV supporter.

 

May the best team win.

 

Melbourne don't have a 'west Sydney' hey, rubbish of course you do. Might not be in west Melbourne but there are areas of Melbourne that are quite similar in many respects to west Sydney. The fact that MV and MH share the same stadium and the same radius is at the root of the problem surely.

 

MV and MH don't really represent any part of Melbourne or any part of a community, just two clubs playing out of the same stadium after the same fans on the same territory. There are ESFC fans in the west of Sydney but a there is a big distinction between ESFC and WSW that will never exist between MV and MH. It would have been better if they had introduced a team in Geelong rather than MH.

 

No you're wrong! If you don't live in Melbourne you have no idea. I have a mate from Edensor Park that lives in Melbourne now for 2 years. He told me how West Sydney and the East side are completely different. I couldn't give a rats behind if someone is  from the East side of Melbourne, West side or North. It's all Melbourne! You guys on the other hand (as I was told from people that are from Western Sydney) dislike people from the East and vice versa. West Sydney is like a city in itself. I have been there 4 times already. Geelong is a town with a population of 180k whereas Central coast has 100k more. Going by Central Coast's crowd, do you think a club from Geelong will succeed? Mate, you're not looking at the bigger picture.

 

To this day, I still havent worked out why they even created MH....

 

We had one crowd of close to 7K at the start of the season, when people were still sounding out what the club was about, plus it was torrential rain.

 

You guys just turn up for 3 games of the year and its prolly 80/20 victory to heart supporters.

 

Even ESFC have more identity than MH.

 

Dude, nemoj zajebavat. I'll repeat: success does amazing things to a club. How would another West Sydney team do if it was brought into the A-league?

 

Thats the root the of problem, there isnt a need for another western team to enter the league, what would be the point of that and thats the same as Heart. There was no need for them if they were going to try do the same thing as Victory.

West Melbourne would still be in Melbourne though, would still share the same area as MH and MV, so your point of "we don't have a west Melbourne team" makes no sense man......

West Melbourne would still be in Melbourne though, would still share the same area as MH and MV, so your point of "we don't have a west Melbourne team" makes no sense man......

Yeah, but they don't highlight the goegraphical difference down there the way we do up here. It could exist in the future so it might be worth taking a shot at it. Although the problem now is that the Melbourne Heart brand is a little tarnished. MV are stomping all over them. To get any kind of success you have to begin to get under your rivals skin the way we do with SFC.

 

 

To this day, I still havent worked out why they even created MH....

 

We had one crowd of close to 7K at the start of the season, when people were still sounding out what the club was about, plus it was torrential rain.

 

You guys just turn up for 3 games of the year and its prolly 80/20 victory to heart supporters.

 

Even ESFC have more identity than MH.

 

Dude, nemoj zajebavat. I'll repeat: success does amazing things to a club. How would another West Sydney team do if it was brought into the A-league?

 

 

Thats the root the of problem, there isnt a need for another western team to enter the league, what would be the point of that and thats the same as Heart. There was no need for them if they were going to try do the same thing as Victory.

 

The point was to introduce another team in Melbourne because they (FFA) saw potential. MV having crowds of up to 27k average for a season so they thought there is room for another Melbourne club. I don't follow AFL at all but I think there are around 7 Melbourne clubs??? Half of them are shithouse like Melbourne Demons yet they still pull in a crowd. It must be a football mentality where if your team does crap, the supporters drop off. Just look how many people Adelaide had when they were losing. Single Adelaide team in a city that has a million people, imagine CCM hovering at the bottom of the table how many people they would pull, SFC another example. They had 4k for one game.....

West Melbourne would still be in Melbourne though, would still share the same area as MH and MV, so your point of "we don't have a west Melbourne team" makes no sense man......

No **** dude. I work in West Melbourne. But you obviously didn't read my post properly and the point I was trying to make.

 

West Melbourne would still be in Melbourne though, would still share the same area as MH and MV, so your point of "we don't have a west Melbourne team" makes no sense man......

Yeah, but they don't highlight the goegraphical difference down there the way we do up here. It could exist in the future so it might be worth taking a shot at it. Although the problem now is that the Melbourne Heart brand is a little tarnished. MV are stomping all over them. To get any kind of success you have to begin to get under your rivals skin the way we do with SFC.

 

Hit the nail right on the head there. All I hear on the TV and radio here is MV. MH gets its 2 cents here and there.

Nxt stop, Melb FART!

 

 

 

To this day, I still havent worked out why they even created MH....

 

We had one crowd of close to 7K at the start of the season, when people were still sounding out what the club was about, plus it was torrential rain.

 

You guys just turn up for 3 games of the year and its prolly 80/20 victory to heart supporters.

 

Even ESFC have more identity than MH.

 

Dude, nemoj zajebavat. I'll repeat: success does amazing things to a club. How would another West Sydney team do if it was brought into the A-league?

 

 

Thats the root the of problem, there isnt a need for another western team to enter the league, what would be the point of that and thats the same as Heart. There was no need for them if they were going to try do the same thing as Victory.

 

 

The point was to introduce another team in Melbourne because they (FFA) saw potential. MV having crowds of up to 27k average for a season so they thought there is room for another Melbourne club. I don't follow AFL at all but I think there are around 7 Melbourne clubs??? Half of them are shithouse like Melbourne Demons yet they still pull in a crowd. It must be a football mentality where if your team does crap, the supporters drop off. Just look how many people Adelaide had when they were losing. Single Adelaide team in a city that has a million people, imagine CCM hovering at the bottom of the table how many people they would pull, SFC another example. They had 4k for one game.....

West Melbourne would still be in Melbourne though, would still share the same area as MH and MV, so your point of "we don't have a west Melbourne team" makes no sense man......

 

No **** dude. I work in West Melbourne. But you obviously didn't read my post properly and the point I was trying to make.

 

Welcome to the WSW forum

ABC, AFL is a game that requires you to be there. Football not so much.

Just as a question, I have always wondered and have searched google hundreds of times, what drives someone to stop going for victory, and go for heart.

Normally a team is for a specific geographical area. Even when there is 7 teams in a city, you go for a specific one. That's why I go for parramatta and not the roosters who are on the either side if the city. Every team has a geographical base, and melbourne has 2.

Heart have no chance of overtaking victory, and it is the FFA's fault for introducing a team that is sharing an area, but cannot borrow the fans. They play at the same ground, share the same name. You go for the one that will never live to be anything big.

Don't turn it around in the WANDERERS because we have everything that Heart needs that I have stated

ABC, AFL is a game that requires you to be there. Football not so much.

 

Just as a question, I have always wondered and have searched google hundreds of times, what drives someone to stop going for victory, and go for heart.

 

Normally a team is for a specific geographical area. Even when there is 7 teams in a city, you go for a specific one. That's why I go for parramatta and not the roosters who are on the either side if the city. Every team has a geographical base, and melbourne has 2.

 

Heart have no chance of overtaking victory, and it is the FFA's fault for introducing a team that is sharing an area, but cannot borrow the fans. They play at the same ground, share the same name. You go for the one that will never live to be anything big.

 

Don't turn it around in the WANDERERS because we have everything that Heart needs that I have stated

I feel like I am talking to a brick wall sometimes. I'll repeat, specific geographical area sometimes has nothing to do with it. So does that mean the AFL team Melbourne Demons should have the biggest crowd in the comp because it has every region covered? Do Collingwood supporters only come from the suburb of Collingwood in Melbourne? I'm not denying MH will never surpass MV but with a little success, and we have had f*** all in the 4 seasons, that there is room for another Melbourne club. You say how MH has no identity, no supporters blablabla... then look how piss poor Perth is, Adelaide, Wellington..... the only teams to represent their city and they drop under 10k. FFA saw they made a mistake by not taking control of MH in a vulnerable market so I wonder who did FFA prop up/back in their first season of the A-league? It was a success and I'm happy for WSW.

Back to the game, on paper MH made the best recruitment off-season and have probably the best team on paper. But when you have a s*** coach that plays defensive, long balls and s*** style you can't expect much success and it definitely won't appeal to the public. Unless he changes his tactics and doesn't play players out of postion it should be a good game.

BOM official forecast for Melbourne on Friday is:

 

Cloudy. Areas of rain. Winds south to southeasterly 15 to 20 km/h tending east to southeasterly in the morning. Temps Min 13 Max 19

 

 

Last season we won at AAMI in the rain.

Let it rain, let it poor, we will sing forever more. 

 

ABC, AFL is a game that requires you to be there. Football not so much.

 

Just as a question, I have always wondered and have searched google hundreds of times, what drives someone to stop going for victory, and go for heart.

 

Normally a team is for a specific geographical area. Even when there is 7 teams in a city, you go for a specific one. That's why I go for parramatta and not the roosters who are on the either side if the city. Every team has a geographical base, and melbourne has 2.

 

Heart have no chance of overtaking victory, and it is the FFA's fault for introducing a team that is sharing an area, but cannot borrow the fans. They play at the same ground, share the same name. You go for the one that will never live to be anything big.

 

Don't turn it around in the WANDERERS because we have everything that Heart needs that I have stated

 

I feel like I am talking to a brick wall sometimes. I'll repeat, specific geographical area sometimes has nothing to do with it. So does that mean the AFL team Melbourne Demons should have the biggest crowd in the comp because it has every region covered? Do Collingwood supporters only come from the suburb of Collingwood in Melbourne? I'm not denying MH will never surpass MV but with a little success, and we have had f*** all in the 4 seasons, that there is room for another Melbourne club. You say how MH has no identity, no supporters blablabla... then look how piss poor Perth is, Adelaide, Wellington..... the only teams to represent their city and they drop under 10k. FFA saw they made a mistake by not taking control of MH in a vulnerable market so I wonder who did FFA prop up/back in their first season of the A-league? It was a success and I'm happy for WSW.

 

Back to the game, on paper MH made the best recruitment off-season and have probably the best team on paper. But when you have a s*** coach that plays defensive, long balls and s*** style you can't expect much success and it definitely won't appeal to the public. Unless he changes his tactics and doesn't play players out of postion it should be a good game.

 

What are you doing wasting time on here? Shouldn't you be choosing your outfit for the game?

I'll side with ABC12345 here. Do any NRL teams really represent their actual region? Do the Bulldogs represent Canterbury? **** no. Do Souths represent South Sydney? Their supporters are scattered all over Sydney. You could only really say that Manly, Cronulla and Penrith represent their region, and even these days Penrith wants to just be called 'Panthers'. Two reasons for this. Clubs are becoming brands who want to be the biggest and the best, and secondlyrestricting yourself to just representing one region limits yourself to becoming the biggest and best. It is why Manchester Utd and Barcelona advertise globally. What does it matter where they are from? Money talks.

We (WSW) are an oddity here that we very much represent our region Western Sydney which gets belittled by others not only in this city (but in this country). We take pride in this because we are going against the grain and supporting something that was always seen as unfashionable. We are making it cool to be uncool.  It is funny though how our bandwagon is now growing to include people from all regions around Sydney and NSW now with the success of our club. Somehow we are slowly becoming a brand, and even people from the more affluent parts of Sydney are deciding they want to suport the 'Westie scum'. Human behaviour is a funny thing.

 

 

ABC, AFL is a game that requires you to be there. Football not so much.

 

Just as a question, I have always wondered and have searched google hundreds of times, what drives someone to stop going for victory, and go for heart.

 

Normally a team is for a specific geographical area. Even when there is 7 teams in a city, you go for a specific one. That's why I go for parramatta and not the roosters who are on the either side if the city. Every team has a geographical base, and melbourne has 2.

 

Heart have no chance of overtaking victory, and it is the FFA's fault for introducing a team that is sharing an area, but cannot borrow the fans. They play at the same ground, share the same name. You go for the one that will never live to be anything big.

 

Don't turn it around in the WANDERERS because we have everything that Heart needs that I have stated

 

I feel like I am talking to a brick wall sometimes. I'll repeat, specific geographical area sometimes has nothing to do with it. So does that mean the AFL team Melbourne Demons should have the biggest crowd in the comp because it has every region covered? Do Collingwood supporters only come from the suburb of Collingwood in Melbourne? I'm not denying MH will never surpass MV but with a little success, and we have had f*** all in the 4 seasons, that there is room for another Melbourne club. You say how MH has no identity, no supporters blablabla... then look how piss poor Perth is, Adelaide, Wellington..... the only teams to represent their city and they drop under 10k. FFA saw they made a mistake by not taking control of MH in a vulnerable market so I wonder who did FFA prop up/back in their first season of the A-league? It was a success and I'm happy for WSW.

 

Back to the game, on paper MH made the best recruitment off-season and have probably the best team on paper. But when you have a s*** coach that plays defensive, long balls and s*** style you can't expect much success and it definitely won't appeal to the public. Unless he changes his tactics and doesn't play players out of postion it should be a good game.

 

What are you doing wasting time on here? Shouldn't you be choosing your outfit for the game?

 

Is it illegal to be on another teams forum? FYI - I'll be going straight to the game after work. So the outfit is a shirt, pants and shoes. Something you only get to wear at weddings.

ABC, I have no idea what the point is that you're tryin to make!

You slag off wanderers for being successful then defend heart for well.......not having a heart and blaming wanderers or it, what in gods name is that?

An extremely large amount of supporters come from this area. But the AFL is a bad example considering two generations of people could only watch teams out of melbourne and therefore support only melbourne teams.

As well as this the 4.077 million population of melbourne can share between two teams, meaning if it IS NOT GEOGRAPHICAL, that leaves about 2 million each for the supporters (obviously nobody can have that many fans here). Of course nobody wants to watch aloisi's football and that is understandable but you should be pulling bigger crowds.

For Adelaide, Wellington and Perth they do not have 2 million to choose from. Wellington have 1/10th of this, Adelaide have half of this and Perth have 300000 less than this yet they still manage to pull supporters.

 

 

 

ABC, AFL is a game that requires you to be there. Football not so much.

 

Just as a question, I have always wondered and have searched google hundreds of times, what drives someone to stop going for victory, and go for heart.

 

Normally a team is for a specific geographical area. Even when there is 7 teams in a city, you go for a specific one. That's why I go for parramatta and not the roosters who are on the either side if the city. Every team has a geographical base, and melbourne has 2.

 

Heart have no chance of overtaking victory, and it is the FFA's fault for introducing a team that is sharing an area, but cannot borrow the fans. They play at the same ground, share the same name. You go for the one that will never live to be anything big.

 

Don't turn it around in the WANDERERS because we have everything that Heart needs that I have stated

 

I feel like I am talking to a brick wall sometimes. I'll repeat, specific geographical area sometimes has nothing to do with it. So does that mean the AFL team Melbourne Demons should have the biggest crowd in the comp because it has every region covered? Do Collingwood supporters only come from the suburb of Collingwood in Melbourne? I'm not denying MH will never surpass MV but with a little success, and we have had f*** all in the 4 seasons, that there is room for another Melbourne club. You say how MH has no identity, no supporters blablabla... then look how piss poor Perth is, Adelaide, Wellington..... the only teams to represent their city and they drop under 10k. FFA saw they made a mistake by not taking control of MH in a vulnerable market so I wonder who did FFA prop up/back in their first season of the A-league? It was a success and I'm happy for WSW.

 

Back to the game, on paper MH made the best recruitment off-season and have probably the best team on paper. But when you have a s*** coach that plays defensive, long balls and s*** style you can't expect much success and it definitely won't appeal to the public. Unless he changes his tactics and doesn't play players out of postion it should be a good game.

 

What are you doing wasting time on here? Shouldn't you be choosing your outfit for the game?

 

 

Is it illegal to be on another teams forum? FYI - I'll be going straight to the game after work. So the outfit is a shirt, pants and shoes. Something you only get to wear at weddings.

 

Happy to have you here mate, i just don't want you getting sidetracked from maintaining your boys mission of keeping melbourne the fashion capital of Australia 

 

 

 

ABC, AFL is a game that requires you to be there. Football not so much.

 

Just as a question, I have always wondered and have searched google hundreds of times, what drives someone to stop going for victory, and go for heart.

 

Normally a team is for a specific geographical area. Even when there is 7 teams in a city, you go for a specific one. That's why I go for parramatta and not the roosters who are on the either side if the city. Every team has a geographical base, and melbourne has 2.

 

Heart have no chance of overtaking victory, and it is the FFA's fault for introducing a team that is sharing an area, but cannot borrow the fans. They play at the same ground, share the same name. You go for the one that will never live to be anything big.

 

Don't turn it around in the WANDERERS because we have everything that Heart needs that I have stated

 

I feel like I am talking to a brick wall sometimes. I'll repeat, specific geographical area sometimes has nothing to do with it. So does that mean the AFL team Melbourne Demons should have the biggest crowd in the comp because it has every region covered? Do Collingwood supporters only come from the suburb of Collingwood in Melbourne? I'm not denying MH will never surpass MV but with a little success, and we have had f*** all in the 4 seasons, that there is room for another Melbourne club. You say how MH has no identity, no supporters blablabla... then look how piss poor Perth is, Adelaide, Wellington..... the only teams to represent their city and they drop under 10k. FFA saw they made a mistake by not taking control of MH in a vulnerable market so I wonder who did FFA prop up/back in their first season of the A-league? It was a success and I'm happy for WSW.

 

Back to the game, on paper MH made the best recruitment off-season and have probably the best team on paper. But when you have a s*** coach that plays defensive, long balls and s*** style you can't expect much success and it definitely won't appeal to the public. Unless he changes his tactics and doesn't play players out of postion it should be a good game.

 

What are you doing wasting time on here? Shouldn't you be choosing your outfit for the game?

 

 

Is it illegal to be on another teams forum? FYI - I'll be going straight to the game after work. So the outfit is a shirt, pants and shoes. Something you only get to wear at weddings.

 

 

FFS, your banter needs to improve a bit if you intend to remain around here. At least before you were trying to put a point over, now you are just coming over as a nob.

It is wrong to say that Heart has half of Melbourne to draw from and that they should be getting bigger crowds.  The fact that the number of registered footballers in Melbourne is less than 25% of the number in Sydney is a clear indication that our code is a niche sport there just like AFL is in western Sydney.  Heart is a long term project that was never going to get the instantaneous support that Wanderers was.  Victory were given 5 years to work the market and captured most of the available support for the game just like the Swans have for AFL in Sydney.

ABC got a point, im not from the west, Im from the southern suburbs of sydney. I technically should be folowing esfc. Never folowed a team in the A-league, ive always want to be involved in active support  so i thought id give WSW a chance, after round 1 last year i was hooked and havent looked back.

ABC, I have no idea what the point is that you're tryin to make!

 

You slag off wanderers for being successful then defend heart for well.......not having a heart and blaming wanderers or it, what in gods name is that?

Of course you don't get it. It's because you are not reading my posts properly so I will make it simple for you, rephrase and post:

1. I'm happy that WSW are successful

2. Happy the excitment and style they bring to the A-league

3. I conceed MH will never surpass MV in terms of success (at least in the near future)

4. We (MH) made the best recruitment off-season

5. We (MH) have one of the best team on paper but with a s*** coach it will go no where

6. May the best team win on Friday.

An extremely large amount of supporters come from this area. But the AFL is a bad example considering two generations of people could only watch teams out of melbourne and therefore support only melbourne teams.

 

As well as this the 4.077 million population of melbourne can share between two teams, meaning if it IS NOT GEOGRAPHICAL, that leaves about 2 million each for the supporters (obviously nobody can have that many fans here). Of course nobody wants to watch aloisi's football and that is understandable but you should be pulling bigger crowds.

 

For Adelaide, Wellington and Perth they do not have 2 million to choose from. Wellington have 1/10th of this, Adelaide have half of this and Perth have 300000 less than this yet they still manage to pull supporters.

Perth pulls in supporters? Ummm.... they gave away 5k tickets for their first home game.

 

ABC, AFL is a game that requires you to be there. Football not so much.

 

Just as a question, I have always wondered and have searched google hundreds of times, what drives someone to stop going for victory, and go for heart.

 

Normally a team is for a specific geographical area. Even when there is 7 teams in a city, you go for a specific one. That's why I go for parramatta and not the roosters who are on the either side if the city. Every team has a geographical base, and melbourne has 2.

 

Heart have no chance of overtaking victory, and it is the FFA's fault for introducing a team that is sharing an area, but cannot borrow the fans. They play at the same ground, share the same name. You go for the one that will never live to be anything big.

 

Don't turn it around in the WANDERERS because we have everything that Heart needs that I have stated

 

I feel like I am talking to a brick wall sometimes. I'll repeat, specific geographical area sometimes has nothing to do with it. So does that mean the AFL team Melbourne Demons should have the biggest crowd in the comp because it has every region covered? Do Collingwood supporters only come from the suburb of Collingwood in Melbourne? I'm not denying MH will never surpass MV but with a little success, and we have had f*** all in the 4 seasons, that there is room for another Melbourne club. You say how MH has no identity, no supporters blablabla... then look how piss poor Perth is, Adelaide, Wellington..... the only teams to represent their city and they drop under 10k. FFA saw they made a mistake by not taking control of MH in a vulnerable market so I wonder who did FFA prop up/back in their first season of the A-league? It was a success and I'm happy for WSW.

 

Back to the game, on paper MH made the best recruitment off-season and have probably the best team on paper. But when you have a s*** coach that plays defensive, long balls and s*** style you can't expect much success and it definitely won't appeal to the public. Unless he changes his tactics and doesn't play players out of postion it should be a good game.

 

I think we have found the Melburnian delusional counterpart to ESFC's SBS...you know, the type of poster who comes into our forum to pontificate about how good their club's signings are and yet after four rounds has achieved nothing to the power of bugger over the square root of **** all. And to make things worse for our Mexican acquaintance at least ESFC fans can point to one win and a whole slew of genuine injuries.

Last time I looked the A-League doesn't expect games to be played on sheets of A4...it's actually a real competition where hypothetical/delusional boasting matters not a jot when reality hits. Heart have shown yet again that whilst they tick all the bureaucratic boxes of being a football club in the A-League their hard cold reality is that they are a joke club with a joke coach and a joke squad.

ABC got a point, im not from the west, Im from the southern suburbs of sydney. I technically should be folowing esfc. Never folowed a team in the A-league, ive always want to be involved in active support  so i thought id give WSW a chance, after round 1 last year i was hooked and havent looked back.

Teams that call themselves Sydney and play at Moore Park = Eastern Suburbs, the North Shore, Northern Beaches.

Southern Sydney is not now, and will never be Sydney FC territory.

Best team on paper...

http://sofifa.com/en/14/t/112224-melbourne-heart-fc

umm...

I would say that Heart take the easy option when it comes to recruiting players. Players who need a second chance or players who they feel might be able to put bums on seats. I feel that is more like 'risky' recruitment rather than 'good' recruitment, and their position on the table shows it. 

 

 

ABC, I have no idea what the point is that you're tryin to make!

 

You slag off wanderers for being successful then defend heart for well.......not having a heart and blaming wanderers or it, what in gods name is that?

Of course you don't get it. It's because you are not reading my posts properly so I will make it simple for you, rephrase and post:

 

1. I'm happy that WSW are successful

2. Happy the excitment and style they bring to the A-league

3. I conceed MH will never surpass MV in terms of success (at least in the near future)

4. We (MH) made the best recruitment off-season

5. We (MH) have one of the best team on paper but with a s*** coach it will go no where

6. May the best team win on Friday..

1. No you're not!

2. No your not!

3. That's a mute point!

4. Let me get you an A4 paper, write down your recruitment a on paper, might actually help you get an away win outside of Victoria!

5. No you don't!

6. Best team won 3 times last season, and long may it continue into the new season!