FFA Introducing Members-Only Restrictions On Active Support?

 

Sorry, but when there may be a common cause amongst fans that can support a united stance against the FFA, that could also benefit our own fans, why wouldn't we?

If the German fans can do it????

Please explain to me how this is going to impact your game day experience. It's whingers and w

Why doesnt the FFA just implant chips in our heads to monitor and follow us around.

FTFFA

do not give them ideas

"Ono" I "wander" if they fear we will run "amok".

If so they should build a "bridge" and get over it.

Ill show myself out.

If you're not a troll you need some serious psychiatric help.

 

Sorry, but when there may be a common cause amongst fans that can support a united stance against the FFA, that could also benefit our own fans, why wouldn't we?

If the German fans can do it????

 

Please explain to me how this is going to impact your game day experience. It's whingers and whiners such as yourself that see negative in every single thing the club does and in this case has no, nil, nothing at all to do with anything other than the club from protecting it's assets and the governing body FFA protecting the good name of the game. How is this at all a negative issue. They are in a no win situation either way both WSW and FFA. By the way the Germans also thought they could conquer the world once upon a time. Also NZ have recognised *** marriage as well, let's just do it as well so we can appease a minority.

In the same way that we don't cave into terrorists demands, I don't think we should cave into the scare mongering and the negativity that bleeds through in the media. We should take a positive not negative line that what at the end of the day will hurt the growth of aleague and what will attract new fans to the game. Your argument that we have a bad element that we need to weed out in our active support may be valid but let hatamoto and the police do there jobs! They have security cameras focused in on the active support, if someone misbehaves ban them/fine them/kick them out of the game but don't hurt or limit the growth on a measure that hurts our club and league.

One unreasonable draconian rule after anther. All were trying to do is support a football club. Why do they have to make it such a complicated mess?!

One unreasonable draconian rule after anther. All were trying to do is support a football club. Why do they have to make it such a complicated mess?!

Exactly!  Why all this fuss, about what? A few flares? Haven't seen a rukus of note on the terraces yet with opposing fans. What are they scared of, it's overkill?

 

One unreasonable draconian rule after anther. All were trying to do is support a football club. Why do they have to make it such a complicated mess?!

 

Exactly!  Why all this fuss, about what? A few flares? Haven't seen a rukus of note on the terraces yet with opposing fans. What are they scared of, it's overkill?

 

 

One unreasonable draconian rule after anther. All were trying to do is support a football club. Why do they have to make it such a complicated mess?!

 

Exactly! Why all this fuss, about what? A few flares? Haven't seen a rukus of note on the terraces yet with opposing fans. What are they scared of, it's overkill?

By introducing competition point deductions, it certainly changed the minds of many (including mine) in the use of flares at Australian football matches

 

 

One unreasonable draconian rule after anther. All were trying to do is support a football club. Why do they have to make it such a complicated mess?!

Exactly! Why all this fuss, about what? A few flares? Haven't seen a rukus of note on the terraces yet with opposing fans. What are they scared of, it's overkill?

The problem is the majority of fans don't have a problem with it, however the majority of haters and media see it as breaking the law so the FFA need to appear to be dealing with the law breakers coming down hard on the fans/supporters of the game, limiting the growth of active support.

 

By introducing competition point deductions, it certainly changed the minds of many (including mine) in the use of flares at Australian football matches

 

I agree and I'm not condoning flares. But if that's the only reason it seems a bit over the top to impose these sort of measures across the whole A-League when ultimately we want the game (and not just the Wanderers) to grow in this country and active support is one major differentiator between football and other codes.

 

 

 

 

One unreasonable draconian rule after anther. All were trying to do is support a football club. Why do they have to make it such a complicated mess?!

Exactly! Why all this fuss, about what? A few flares? Haven't seen a rukus of note on the terraces yet with opposing fans. What are they scared of, it's overkill?

The problem is the majority of fans don't have a problem with it, however the majority of haters and media see it as breaking the law so the FFA need to appear to be dealing with the law breakers coming down hard on the fans/supporters of the game, limiting the growth of active support.

 

By introducing competition point deductions, it certainly changed the minds of many (including mine) in the use of flares at Australian football matches

I agree and I'm not condoning flares. But if that's the only reason it seems a bit over the top to impose these sort of measures across the whole A-League when ultimately we want the game (and not just the Wanderers) to grow in this country and active support is one major differentiator between football and other codes.

I never said it was a clever nor logical decision but unfortunately how the FFA thinks and comes to it's illogical decisions. However I was mainly trying to build a bridge from dixmata thinking and the main concensus on this forum

CHANGE NAME TO FLARES THREAD

CHANGE NAME TO FLARES THREAD

Hahahaha...we've been there,  done  that,   got locked X 10...or maybe 20!

 

CHANGE NAME TO FLARES THREAD

 

 

Hahahaha...we've been there,  done  that,   got locked X 10...or maybe 20!

That's a shame, can't imagine anything as enthralling as someone arguing that a fizzy, smokey stick is dangerous with someone arguing that a fizzy smokey stick is essential to create atmosphere

 

 

CHANGE NAME TO FLARES THREAD

 

Hahahaha...we've been there,  done  that,   got locked X 10...or maybe 20!

That's a shame, can't imagine anything as enthralling as someone arguing that a fizzy, smokey stick is dangerous with someone arguing that a fizzy smokey stick is essential to create atmosphere

 

Not sure if you're being ironic or not. -lol.   We can laugh about this now...but it felt like the world as we knew it was ending on some of those threads!! It was World War 3.

One called "Flares are Awesome" was the most explosive - so to speak!!!

I reread some of it a while back... but couldn't find it in the Archives (Legendary Threads) a minute ago, which is where it was.

If you read this Mack...did that thread get the chop in your last clean up? If so, it's a shame, because these threads chart our history / evolution as a group of hundreds of individuals with different lives, and different perspectives on issues...and how we have so far weathered some pretty intensive "storms"

No idea. Could be in the HOF or Archive.

No idea. Could be in the HOF or Archive.

That's where I looked...just might've missed it. Thanks for the reply.

 

 

 

CHANGE NAME TO FLARES THREAD

 

 

Hahahaha...we've been there,  done  that,   got locked X 10...or maybe 20!

That's a shame, can't imagine anything as enthralling as someone arguing that a fizzy, smokey stick is dangerous with someone arguing that a fizzy smokey stick is essential to create atmosphere

 

Not sure if you're being ironic or not. -lol.   We can laugh about this now...but it felt like the world as we knew it was ending on some of those threads!! It was World War 3.

 

One called "Flares are Awesome" was the most explosive - so to speak!!!

 

I reread some of it a while back... but couldn't find it in the Archives (Legendary Threads) a minute ago, which is where it was.

 

If you read this Mack...did that thread get the chop in your last clean up? If so, it's a shame, because these threads chart our history / evolution as a group of hundreds of individuals with different lives, and different perspectives on issues...and how we have so far weathered some pretty intensive "storms"

I belive it has been recorded in the book pyro.

Being a member of the internet generation I haven't read every post (there are too many distractions on the intern... Look, it's another bloody cat meme), but:

Other clubs wouldn't necessarily be altruistic in their opposition to this. Yes, I'm aware of the "game day experience" argument and what an active support base can bring, but for all clubs the sting is certainly the cost - security, additional policing, barriers, etc. at every game, and not just when the rowdy RBB and North Terrace come to town.

Thinking about how this may play out more broadly, it's likely that a number of clubs may only oppose this (oppose it strenuously, anyway) on cost grounds alone, given that they could spin this as "creating a safe game day environment" for the family support throughout the remainder of their stadia. In saying that, I am well aware that a day at the Aleague is as safe as any other sport, but I'm just looking at how this could play out, and that means accounting for the unfounded fears of the masses (many worry, and there isn't much that we can do about it right now but ride it out).

IF true this isn't a good move by the FFA, not at all, but I do think that if this restrictive appraoch to ticketing is to apply to some clubs, it should apply for all. Hopefully the largely good behaviour of the previous season can continue, and these restrictions can be shown to the prohibitively expensive white elephant that we all know them to be.

Not sure if you're being ironic or not. -lol.   We can laugh about this now...but it felt like the world as we knew it was ending on some of those threads!! It was World War 3.

 

One called "Flares are Awesome" was the most explosive - so to speak!!!

 

I reread some of it a while back... but couldn't find it in the Archives (Legendary Threads) a minute ago, which is where it was.

 

If you read this Mack...did that thread get the chop in your last clean up? If so, it's a shame, because these threads chart our history / evolution as a group of hundreds of individuals with different lives, and different perspectives on issues...and how we have so far weathered some pretty intensive "storms"

the thread is still there (actually still on the front page of the "RBB Discussion" forum) along with all the others, use the search box at the top of the page and choose to search in "forums", it comes up near the top of the list fwiw.

its been confirmed, **** off FFA

 

 

FFA's new measures for Active Support areas

The Red Army voice their support for Adelaide United head coach Josep Gombau.

Monday, 16 June 2014 - 

Staff Writer

 2 Comments

Football Federation Australia (FFA) has today announced measures to enhance and protect the unique atmosphere created by active supporters at Hyundai A-League matches.

The Head of Hyundai A-League, Damien de Bohun, said the new protocols would set league-wide standards and were part of a long-term strategy designed to grow membership and deepen fan engagement.

 

“The atmosphere at Hyundai A-League matches is unique in Australian sport,†said de Bohun.

“You don’t have to go to Europe or South America to experience football passion and see how real supporters get behind their team. It’s on show every week in the A-League.â€

 

The key component of the new measures is a ‘membership only area’ for all “Home Club Active Supporter Areas†for the upcoming Hyundai A-League 2014/15 Season.

 

This will mean that all fans within the designated “Home Club Active Supporter Areas†will have a valid season membership pass or shorter-term active area pass.

 

“The connection between active fans and their clubs goes beyond the purchase of a ticket on match day,†said de Bohun.

“We want our fans to have a growing voice in how clubs interact with their supporters and the local community.

 

“The other advantage of this development is that the club and active supporters will be able to work together to build on the experience of match day and continue to create a safe and family-friendly environment.

 

FFA has confirmed that the new measures will be linked to enshrining active supporter activities such as playing musical instruments, tifo displays, capo stands and large flags.

 

“We want fans to be able to create the best atmosphere and in conjunction with clubs and stadium managers we will give the fans certainty over their activities,†said de Bohun.

 

FFA also announced that there may be additional ticketing measures for “Away Club Active Supporter Areasâ€, particularly for matches where it is anticipated that there will be a high number of away club active supporters in attendance.

 

FFA is committed to working with each club to customise solutions based on their individual needs and their respective membership markets to comply with these conditions.

An example of this may include the use of three (3) game membership passes, or members ‘guest’ passes into the respective active supporter area(s) to allow fans to try before they buy into a full membership.

 

“From our discussions with the various fan groups and other stakeholders around the competition, there is a common desire to see a reduction of the presence of police and security at football matches, in particular around active supporter areas.

 

“We believe that the successful implementation of these new conditions will go a long way towards reaching that common goal,†concluded de Bohun.

These measures will be effective from the opening round of the Hyundai A-League 2014/15 Season and will be reviewed following the Hyundai A-League 2015 Grand Final.

 

 

Not sure if you're being ironic or not. -lol.   We can laugh about this now...but it felt like the world as we knew it was ending on some of those threads!! It was World War 3.

 

One called "Flares are Awesome" was the most explosive - so to speak!!!

 

I reread some of it a while back... but couldn't find it in the Archives (Legendary Threads) a minute ago, which is where it was.

 

If you read this Mack...did that thread get the chop in your last clean up? If so, it's a shame, because these threads chart our history / evolution as a group of hundreds of individuals with different lives, and different perspectives on issues...and how we have so far weathered some pretty intensive "storms"

the thread is still there (actually still on the front page of the "RBB Discussion" forum) along with all the others, use the search box at the top of the page and choose to search in "forums", it comes up near the top of the list fwiw.

 

Thanks Tigers..I knew I had seen it not that long ago!!

**** me. Why does this sound like a lot of garbage to me?

 

 

 

FFA's new measures for Active Support areas

The Red Army voice their support for Adelaide United head coach Josep Gombau.

Monday, 16 June 2014 - 

Staff Writer

 2 Comments

Football Federation Australia (FFA) has today announced measures to enhance and protect the unique atmosphere created by active supporters at Hyundai A-League matches.

The Head of Hyundai A-League, Damien de Bohun, said the new protocols would set league-wide standards and were part of a long-term strategy designed to grow membership and deepen fan engagement.

 

“The atmosphere at Hyundai A-League matches is unique in Australian sport,†said de Bohun.

“You don’t have to go to Europe or South America to experience football passion and see how real supporters get behind their team. It’s on show every week in the A-League.â€

 

The key component of the new measures is a ‘membership only area’ for all “Home Club Active Supporter Areas†for the upcoming Hyundai A-League 2014/15 Season.

 

This will mean that all fans within the designated “Home Club Active Supporter Areas†will have a valid season membership pass or shorter-term active area pass.

 

“The connection between active fans and their clubs goes beyond the purchase of a ticket on match day,†said de Bohun.

“We want our fans to have a growing voice in how clubs interact with their supporters and the local community.

 

“The other advantage of this development is that the club and active supporters will be able to work together to build on the experience of match day and continue to create a safe and family-friendly environment.

 

FFA has confirmed that the new measures will be linked to enshrining active supporter activities such as playing musical instruments, tifo displays, capo stands and large flags.

 

“We want fans to be able to create the best atmosphere and in conjunction with clubs and stadium managers we will give the fans certainty over their activities,†said de Bohun.

 

FFA also announced that there may be additional ticketing measures for “Away Club Active Supporter Areasâ€, particularly for matches where it is anticipated that there will be a high number of away club active supporters in attendance.

 

FFA is committed to working with each club to customise solutions based on their individual needs and their respective membership markets to comply with these conditions.

An example of this may include the use of three (3) game membership passes, or members ‘guest’ passes into the respective active supporter area(s) to allow fans to try before they buy into a full membership.

 

“From our discussions with the various fan groups and other stakeholders around the competition, there is a common desire to see a reduction of the presence of police and security at football matches, in particular around active supporter areas.

 

“We believe that the successful implementation of these new conditions will go a long way towards reaching that common goal,†concluded de Bohun.

These measures will be effective from the opening round of the Hyundai A-League 2014/15 Season and will be reviewed following the Hyundai A-League 2015 Grand Final.

 

 

START COMMENTING ON THAT FFA ARTICLE NOW AND VENT!!!

It won't be long I believe until they remove the comment feature.

Lots of posts already! http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/ffas-new-measures-for-active-support-areas/zsvcy29hykuk1iy25f48bchdo#comments

TERRIBLE!

Firstly, argh.

So Western Sydney Wanderers, will us as a club now be creating the new membership option of a "shorter-term active area pass"???

Firstly, argh.

 

So Western Sydney Wanderers, will us as a club now be creating the new membership option of a "shorter-term active area pass"???

Nothing I've heard from the club indicates they are going to do the 'active pass' (which seems like a short term membership), only the "guest pass" system (which looks being a buy back of sorts, if a member doesn't show up another can buy their ticket). Probably because the RBB end at Parra will sell out again, so they will have no room for any other type of membership.

We wont be able to have any sort of active pass because: 

a) all of our active memberships will most likely sell out 

b) they undersell the amount of memberships anyway so technically the empty seats that could be used will be considered sold.

So once again we will have a season of only a three quarter full terrace. Even if the pass was in accordance with a buy back scheme you cant guarantee that a member will not be attending three home games in a row

We got done anyway a long time ago, but I feel for the smaller clubs. Imagine putting limitations on Nix's support. Sh*t effort FFA!

20+ comments and everyone disagrees.

FANS POWER THE GAME MY ASS.

Such a communist regime being able to control everything.

I don't think anything can be done to reverse this policy other than a A-League wide active supporter protest.