Mental Health Thread 2

[Burgerman]

 

 

i struggle with the first season of american horror story, the darkness the video game really ****ed me up emotionally, same with the 2nd last wolfenstine(i know i cant spell) game released, there is one immortal technique song i refuse to listen to, tonight is going to be a lonely and depressing night, i will do my best to sleep and stay happy but i wont leave myself alone with my thoughts again

 

How did you go goat?

Hope you got through it mate

honestly **** night, but the rest of it was not any better but that is life, i look forward to it tonight

So hard to stop the head space miles especially at night when you can't sleep, I recommend try reading a book as that helps keep the mind occupied and before you say books aren't cool look for something in you genre in horror stories etc. Another tool is a hobby that stimulates your mind or even gardening or some form of hard labor that makes you that tired you won't be able to think.p.s if you start digging holes in the yard let your family know before hand as that's an awkward wake up conversation.

[Neverbloom]

 

 

 

i struggle with the first season of american horror story, the darkness the video game really ****ed me up emotionally, same with the 2nd last wolfenstine(i know i cant spell) game released, there is one immortal technique song i refuse to listen to, tonight is going to be a lonely and depressing night, i will do my best to sleep and stay happy but i wont leave myself alone with my thoughts again

How did you go goat?

Hope you got through it mate

honestly **** night, but the rest of it was not any better but that is life, i look forward to it tonight

So hard to stop the head space miles especially at night when you can't sleep, I recommend try reading a book as that helps keep the mind occupied and before you say books aren't cool look for something in you genre in horror stories etc. Another tool is a hobby that stimulates your mind or even gardening or some form of hard labor that makes you that tired you won't be able to think.p.s if you start digging holes in the yard let your family know before hand as that's an awkward wake up conversation.

 

thank you i will try that, i just cant let myself be alone with my thoughts because quite frankly i got some extremely depressing thoughts and i dont want to be alone with them, its difficult because at 4 am everyone is sleeping so its not like i can talk to anyone but i always have the need to distract myself, its not very healthy, this forum has always been here for me and i am lucky for that, there is so much media which triggers me which is depressing because it means i miss out on a lot of quality tv shows/video games/songs ect

 

i am not going to bash anyone's religious beliefs but the truth is i envy them i would love to be able to believe in a loving god, a heaven ect but with so much **** that goes on in this world with much more suffering than happiness i cant believe in a god but i really wish i could

Red & Black family we have here at the Wanderers & WSF goat, we always will have each other's back & stick by one another through thick & thin

its a great forum and community

Red & Black family we have here at the Wanderers & WSF goat, we always will have each other's back & stick by one another through thick & thin

its a great forum and community

[Burgerman]

 

When I visited the trick cyclist the other day the phrase 'grief process' came up.

 

Now I'm no expert on the work of Elizabeth Kubhler-Ross, however I believe the five stages are:

• Denial
• Anger
• Eating Rissoles
• Compiling mix tapes on CD that will never be actually burnt, and why do that nowadays in this mp3/Cloud-based world anyway
• Watching a shitload of movies
• More anger with a soupcon of self pity and the merest hint of righteous rage.

If anyone who has more experience in these emotional waters can give me guidance on the correctness of these assumptions please feel free to send me a DM.

The Kubler Ross work is good but the generally agreed upon notion of grief now is as Jess suggested. That there are a variety of emotions involved, there's no rules, no steps. The analogy I often use is that of waves of grief like an ocean, it's very rough at first, very intense, very frequent waves. Over time however they are less intense, less frequent and more predictable (set off by triggers). However once in a while an unpredictable wave will occur, a bit out of the blue. Can carry lots of different emotions.

Nice thing about grief is that it is a normal healthy process, if you let it happen as it should without getting in the way too much. Nothing wrong with feeling sad about sad events, just take care of yourself in the process. :-)

Triggers are the worst for greif, sometimes you can be sitting there having a laugh then bam a word or something said can trigger an emotional response that can be uncontrollable or hard to suppress but yeah its normal to have emotions and sometimes emotional stabilizing prescriptional drugs don't work or do more damage than good. I don't recommend drugs for emotional issues better off talking them out if possible or writing them down even scribbling anything on paper can convince the mind to control itself. So don't feel the need to seek out quack doctors as most are more emotionaly disturbed than us but only difference is they get paid for it to tell you what you want to hear.

It's normal to be emotional as cynth has mentioned so don't kick yourself to hard and it does get better with time.

[Cynth]

Err....not all "quack doctors" are emotionally disturbed, thank you very much!

 

;-)

[Legionista]

Huahua

[ManfredSchaefer]

Red & Black family we have here at the Wanderers & WSF goat, we always will have each other's back & stick by one another through thick & thin

 

Looks down at gut and asks oneself...when do I stick through the thin time? 

[Neverbloom]

i am ******* sick of being unemployed and useless as ****

[Prydzopolis]

i am ******* sick of being unemployed and useless as ****

Goat, sounds like you had another tough night. How has the suggestions gone on getting some sleep? Or at least trying to switch your mind off?

 

Have you thought of meditation or mindfulness?

[Neverbloom]

sorry honestly its been much better than last night, i am distracting myself again with american horror story and sometimes youtubue, i am just 26 and never had a paid job and i doubt anyone would want to hire me since i am a 26 year old who has never had a job

[Prydzopolis]

sorry honestly its been much better than last night, i am distracting myself again with american horror story and sometimes youtubue, i am just 26 and never had a paid job and i doubt anyone would want to hire me since i am a 26 year old who has never had a job

I know the computer is a distraction but the bright light in screens can really throw your sleep patterns & I know you're using it as a distraction from your thoughts but it's probably something you need to consider. I'm not listening to my own advice either, writing on my screen whilst watching TV, no wonder I can't get back to sleep it's okay Chelsea are playing

 

On the job Goat, you need to start somewhere. Is there a particular line of work that may interest you? Unfortunately you might not be able to start where you want & you may have to work your way through numerous jobs before you find the one right for you (one that you might enjoy). I believe you were at TAFE for a while, is there anything you can do using that knowledge?

 

It isn't always the best thing but if there is any type of community service you could do? I know many people end up doing months of unpaid work just to get there foot in the door but it can be hard toil for little reward & might not result in a job Have you thought about asking the Wanderers whether there was any volunteer work during the work day to demonstrate to future employers your commitment & then you could use WSW as a reference for any future work?

 

Also goat, never be sorry. We will always be here for you (well at least one of us )

[Neverbloom]

 

sorry honestly its been much better than last night, i am distracting myself again with american horror story and sometimes youtubue, i am just 26 and never had a paid job and i doubt anyone would want to hire me since i am a 26 year old who has never had a job

I know the computer is a distraction but the bright light in screens can really throw your sleep patterns & I know you're using it as a distraction from your thoughts but it's probably something you need to consider. I'm not listening to my own advice either, writing on my screen whilst watching TV, no wonder I can't get back to sleep it's okay Chelsea are playing

 

On the job Goat, you need to start somewhere. Is there a particular line of work that may interest you? Unfortunately you might not be able to start where you want & you may have to work your way through numerous jobs before you find the one right for you (one that you might enjoy). I believe you were at TAFE for a while, is there anything you can do using that knowledge?

 

It isn't always the best thing but if there is any type of community service you could do? I know many people end up doing months of unpaid work just to get there foot in the door but it can be hard toil for little reward & might not result in a job Have you thought about asking the Wanderers whether there was any volunteer work during the work day to demonstrate to future employers your commitment & then you could use WSW as a reference for any future work?

 

Also goat, never be sorry. We will always be here for you (well at least one of us )

 

sorry i do make fun of Chelsea a lot, just had to get that out of the way

 

i want to play for the western sydney wanderers, we hired bridge so i am sure they can hire me too in terms of tafe i got

 

Retail cert 2 and 3 maybe 4 i forget

IT Support cert 2

Community services cert 2 3 4 and diploma i think

music business foundation cert 2

multimedia cert 2

and business cert 3 i think

 

i might have more but that is what i know i have, i want to be focused around community services if i can but i would be happy with almost any job right now, maybe i could play for melbourne victory or sydney fc, i couldnt do worse than they did

[Prydzopolis]

At this rate it looks like Easts will be having a clear out in the offseason, you might have a chance Also Chelsea have been terrible this season, they deserve it!! I think we all dream about scoring a goal & celebrating in front of the RBB

 

On your job prospects, the hardest thing seems to be getting your foot in the door which is not easy. You seem to have all the appropriate qualifications but you might find it difficult to find something without having worked before, unfortunately that's just the way it works. Is there any sort community services work that you could volunteer to do, just to get your foot in the door? It might not be your most preferred job or your dream job but you just need to start somewhere.

[Neverbloom]

i do volunteer at a recovery based drop in centre which is kind of a place i want to work at one day but sadly they are not common and that means there is not much chance of me getting a job there, i am thinking about volunteering at another place along with the place i go now but i am unsure where i would look

[hawks2767]

There's always vacancies where I work UG.

[Neverbloom]

There's always vacancies where I work UG.

thank you i need to get my drivers license and hopefully join the work force

[hawks2767]

You don't need a drivers license here mate

[Neverbloom]

most places seem to require one

[dmixtaaa]

Not in Doonie...

[wendybr]

Hey Goat

 

No idea about any of these.... but maybe??

 

https://www.dosomethingnearyou.com.au/

 

http://www.volunteering.com.au/

 

From that last website above.... the Yagoona animal shelter below?????

 

http://www.volunteering.com.au/for-volunteers/skilled-volunteering/current-opportunities/

 

Be determined and keep trying!  

 

Something WILL come your way!

 

Some of those good suggestions posted by other forumites above may well bear fruit also!!  

 

 

[dmixtaaa]

Hey Goat

 

No idea about any of these.... but maybe??

 

https://www.dosomethingnearyou.com.au/

 

http://www.volunteering.com.au/

 

From that last website above.... the Yagoona animal shelter below?????

 

http://www.volunteering.com.au/for-volunteers/skilled-volunteering/current-opportunities/

 

Be determined and keep trying!  

 

Something WILL come your way!

 

Some of those good suggestions posted by other forumites above may well bear fruit also!!  

 

 

Fruit picking is good....

[wendybr]

^^^^^^     

[Neverbloom]

thank you for all the help i think having a job would include much needed structure and money into my life i am not too picky when it comes to work

[dmixtaaa]

Well done goat, the best thing for any mental illness is a sructured & regimented life.Eat, sleep, take med's at the same time each day. Regular work & excercise is a massive bonus which brings a purpose to life and makes it easier to sleep at night and gives more oxygen to the brain.

Good luck brother.

[wendybr]

The science of paying it forwardStory by Lauren Sams |news.com.au

IF human evolution is based on survival of the fittest why do we get such a kick out of being kind?

Science has had a good look at what drives spontaneous acts of generosity - like the 226 customers at a Canadian drive-thru who paid for the person behind them - and how it makes us feel. It turns out humans might actually be hardwired to care about others.

Think about it. Study after study tells us that mothers are biologically hardwired to care for their children even if it means their own health suffers - so much so that even now, when many women work outside the home, they still spend more time parenting than working fathers do.

 

Caring for your own children is one thing - but what about random acts of kindness towards complete strangers? What makes someone give a car to a waitress he has only just met? Like Missouri resident Gary Tackett who noticed a waitress working in his local cafe driving a beaten up Hyundai and surprised her with the â€œtip of a lifetimeâ€, handing her the keys to a new car (well, it was second-hand but new to her).

 

“It’s all about what’s in your heart,†he said. “I know Cindi said it was her best Christmas ever, and I can assure you it’s ours.â€

 

What makes a couple getting ready to walk down the aisle, choose for their guests to give a â€œrandom act of kindness†instead of receiving gifts from a registry? The answer is biology.

Humans might have evolved to survive, but we also want to be happy. Hormones race through our bodies, triggered by external sources to surge, sprint or fall back. The happy hormones - like dopamine, serotonin and oxytocin - are crucial for socialisation, goal-setting and stress reduction.

 

Science has found that doing good for others boosts those hormones, making us all healthier and happier.

It’s such a well-known phenomenon that scientists call it “the helper’s high.†We might not know we’re doing it, but by caring for others, we’re actively seeking that high.

A 2007 University of Louisville study showed that, contrary to popular opinion, we’re actually happier doing things for others than we are when we seek pleasure for ourselves. Michael Steger, the psychologist who led the study, tracked the weekly behaviour of 65 students who reported the relative happiness they derived from pleasure-seeking activities - a night of drinking with friends, a movie marathon- and more meaningful actions, like doing something good for others. The meaningful actions trumped the selfish ones over and over.

 

Caring for others is good for our health, too.Volunteering reduces symptoms of depression, stress and anxiety. A 2013 Carnegie Mellon study of adults over the age of 50 revealed those who volunteered on a regular basis were less likely to develop high blood pressure than those who didn’t volunteer. And even if we’re not clinically depressed or suffer severe anxiety, carrying out acts of kindness can actually help with our stress levels in a pretty major way. A Yale University School of Medicine study measured the link between stressful events and acts of kindness, and found that when participants were not able to do something nice for others they reported a significant increase in stressful feelings.

 

So the best way to deal with that two-hour budget meeting isn’t treating yourself to a stiff drink - it’s helping someone else.

 

And this kindness response seems to be within us from birth (yes, even though small babies can be selfish little creatures who won’t even go to sleep by themselves). A study of chimps and human infants found that the human babies readily and frequently shared their food with perfect strangers - but the chimps rarely even offered food to their own offspring.

 

Nice, isn’t it?

[CaptainJess]

Today has been a rough day for me. I had an anxiety attack this afternoon. I haven't had one in years and it took me off guard. It's one of the most horrible feelings.

Nothing went right today and I felt like everything was spiralling out of control. I found out a couple of upsetting things which just continued to compound on top of one another. It all then culminated this afternoon when I took a phone call at work which made me feel utterly worthless and miserable. 

I feel like an idiot sitting here crying uncontrollably while I'm writing this. I know how I'm feeling is not rational but I can't do anything about it. 

I didn't want to post this because my problems are nothing compared to what others here are going through, but I don't know what else to do right now.

 

[wendybr]

Today has been a rough day for me. I had an anxiety attack this afternoon. I haven't had one in years and it took me off guard. It's one of the most horrible feelings.

 

Nothing went right today and I felt like everything was spiralling out of control. I found out a couple of upsetting things which just continued to compound on top of one other. It all then culminated this afternoon when I took a phone call at work which made me feel utterly worthless and miserable. 

 

I feel like an idiot sitting here crying uncontrollably while I'm writing this. I know how I'm feeling is not rational but I can't do anything about it. 

 

I didn't want to post this because my problems are nothing compared to what others here are going through, but I don't know what else to do right now.

 

 

 

Jess, you have lots of resources to work with.... intelligence, insight, education, honesty,  and the sense to get out into the open what you're currently feeling.

 

I'm sure you'll work your way through your current situation.... and that if you get stuck,  you'll seek the right sort of assistance to get you through it.

 

You've already made the right move in terms of being able to recognise and articulate your feelings.

 

Take care.

 

 

[CaptainJess]

Thanks Wendy. I think I just need some sleep. Everything looks better in the morning.

I have a day off tomorrow so that's something I guess.

[mack]

I didn't want to post this because my problems are nothing compared to what others here are going through, but I don't know what else to do right now.

 

Don't apologise for having your own struggles to deal with or for being open about them. At the end of the day, their problems are theirs, and your problems are your own.

 

You can't ignore yours or playdown how they effect you because other people exist. That just leads to bottling them down inside and not facing them.

 

You've done something, which is open up about it, which is the start of the rational part of your mind asserting itself.

[wendybr]

Thanks Wendy. I think I just need some sleep. Everything looks better in the morning.

 

I have a day off tomorrow so that's something I guess.

 

That sounds very good!!    

 

 

 

I didn't want to post this because my problems are nothing compared to what others here are going through, but I don't know what else to do right now.

 

Don't apologise for having your own struggles to deal with or for being open about them. At the end of the day, their problems are theirs, and your problems are your own.

 

You can't ignore yours or playdown how they effect you because other people exist. That just leads to bottling them down inside and not facing them.

 

You've done something, which is open up about it, which is the start of the rational part of your mind asserting itself.

 

 

^^^^^^And so does that Mack!!

 

Spot on! 

[dmixtaaa]

Jess, we all have problems and to each of us only WE know how significant our problem is.

The best part about this thread is the non judgemental advice given, which is what teally makes this thread special..

To open up here tells us it's an issue for you and we all hope you come through this as quickly as possible. Take care of Jess, you deserve all the happiness in the world. *hugs all round* on phone no emoji sorry..lol