Squad Development 2017/18 Part 2

[Carns]

I'd much prefer to see the young guys from our youth teams and academy get a shot than mediocre state league players.

[Paul01]

24 minutes ago, Carns said:

I'd much prefer to see the young guys from our youth teams and academy get a shot than mediocre state league players.

You got in today.

Can't take credit but a +ve Bossi article put up in the Football Media Thread stating there are six Youth players in todays squad.  I put the players names up in the Matchday thread. Like to see Grozos get, especially when Taurus rates him better than Shabow.

[StringerBellend]

I always thought Youlley looked good, disappeared hasn’t he 

[Carns]

9 minutes ago, Paul01 said:

You got in today.

Can't take credit but a +ve Bossi article put up in the Football Media Thread stating there are six Youth players in todays squad.  I put the players names up in the Matchday thread. Like to see Grozos get, especially when Taurus rates him better than Shabow.

Yes, I read the article and am pleased to see it. Obviously this is more out of necessity due to our injuries, crowded schedule and missing youngsters away on national team duty.

I am hopeful that Gombau will be a bit more proactive with youth moving forward. He brought through some young guns at Adelaide and doesn't seem afraid to give them a chance if they are ready (Popa did too with some of our guys).

I would be quite happy to see WSW adopt the Athletic Bilbao mantra (as mentioned in the Bossi article) of (eventually) all players bar foreigners hailing from western Sydney. We're well on the way to establishing the production line, it would be mad not to utilise it.

[JayZko]

1 hour ago, Carns said:

I'd much prefer to see the young guys from our youth teams and academy get a shot than mediocre state league players.

There no mediocre players those 3 I named have to potential of being the starting trio in any a league team look at Newcastle for example nobody thought they’d be in this position playing young fellas nabbout was never anyone’s favourite player look at him his flying 

[luisenrique]

1 hour ago, Carns said:

Yes, I read the article and am pleased to see it. Obviously this is more out of necessity due to our injuries, crowded schedule and missing youngsters away on national team duty.

I am hopeful that Gombau will be a bit more proactive with youth moving forward. He brought through some young guns at Adelaide and doesn't seem afraid to give them a chance if they are ready (Popa did too with some of our guys).

I would be quite happy to see WSW adopt the Athletic Bilbao mantra (as mentioned in the Bossi article) of (eventually) all players bar foreigners hailing from western Sydney. We're well on the way to establishing the production line, it would be mad not to utilise it.

Bilbao don't even have foreigners do they? Absolutely amazing achievement to have never been relegated despite that! I think it's Real Sociedad who have only Basques but also some foreigners.

Tbh in a league with visa restrictions anyway, I prefer that model, it's nice to have a few players from elsewhere on your books, witness the following we have in Japan because of Ono for example.

[Carns]

9 minutes ago, luisenrique said:

Bilbao don't even have foreigners do they? Absolutely amazing achievement to have never been relegated despite that! I think it's Real Sociedad who have only Basques but also some foreigners.

Tbh in a league with visa restrictions anyway, I prefer that model, it's nice to have a few players from elsewhere on your books, witness the following we have in Japan because of Ono for example.

This wiki is worth a read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletic_Bilbao_signing_policy

[luisenrique]

5 minutes ago, Carns said:

This wiki is worth a read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletic_Bilbao_signing_policy

Best thing about that article was reminding me of Gaizka Mendieta. What a player.

[StringerBellend]

41 minutes ago, JayZko said:

There no mediocre players those 3 I named have to potential of being the starting trio in any a league team look at Newcastle for example nobody thought they’d be in this position playing young fellas nabbout was never anyone’s favourite player look at him his flying 

I’d like to see us give Malia a go. Seen him play for Blacktown a few times always stood out he’s better than sotirio 

however with this one spot we have now we need a top sigining if we are going to get much out of this season 

[Paul01]

8 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

I’d like to see us give Malia a go. Seen him play for Blacktown a few times always stood out he’s better than sotirio 

however with this one spot we have now we need a top sigining if we are going to get much out of this season 

If only he hadn't played for Perth he could have been signed as Mature Age Rookie which is outside the salary cap and squad list. Doesn't apply to the others though except Choi did play p

for the pissants last season

[StringerBellend]

8 minutes ago, Paul01 said:

If only he hadn't played for Perth he could have been signed as Mature Age Rookie which is outside the salary cap and squad list. Doesn't apply to the others though except Choi did play p

for the pissants last season

What a stupid rule a short term injury replacement spell now disqualified him from rookie and therefore making him harder to sign defeating the objective of the rule in the first place  

[Paul01]

6 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

What a stupid rule a short term injury replacement spell now disqualified him from rookie and therefore making him harder to sign defeating the objective of the rule in the first place  

• Mature Age Rookie – A Club can register an Australian Player that is aged 21 or older who last played in an Australian competition (eg. PlayStation4 National Premier Leagues) and has not played in a fully professional league for at least 18 months;

[JayZko]

Gibbsy is a beast he’s a set piece specialist he never had that in the kit when he played for us it’s a shame nobody willing to take a punt if I was aloisi I’d take Gibbsy and send fbk on his bike

[DinoPresinger]

3 hours ago, Carns said:

I'd much prefer to see the young guys from our youth teams and academy get a shot than mediocre state league players.

*young *****

ftfy

[Paul01]

8 minutes ago, GrEmIoWaNdErEr said:

Bangoura to wsw https://es.besoccer.com/noticia/australia-llama-a-lass-359264

Still listed as a rumour amigo. 

[sonar]

13 minutes ago, GrEmIoWaNdErEr said:

Bangoura to wsw https://es.besoccer.com/noticia/australia-llama-a-lass-359264

Gremlo,hombre, a translation would help...lol

My spanish comprehension is about the same as my comprehension of swahili....which is non existent...lol

[sonar]

Just now, GrEmIoWaNdErEr said:

I don't speak Spanish I speak Portuguese and Italian 

Apologies...

[bkaza]

are we getting any CB to bolster our defence? 

[mack]

6 hours ago, bkaza said:

are we getting any CB to bolster our defence? 

Not unless we sack another player.

[StringerBellend]

9 hours ago, GrEmIoWaNdErEr said:

Bangoura to wsw https://es.besoccer.com/noticia/australia-llama-a-lass-359264

From the google translate 

he contract between the Guinean and the Rayo extends until June of the year 2020 , although a good offer of the Australians could convince the Spanish managers of their exit.

Im guessing that a free wanderdog and a Easter show ticket ain’t going to do the trick

[EmMac]

52 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

From the google translate 

he contract between the Guinean and the Rayo extends until June of the year 2020 , although a good offer of the Australians could convince the Spanish managers of their exit.

Im guessing that a free wanderdog and a Easter show ticket ain’t going to do the trick

No, but next seasons My Little Pony round should seal the deal

[JayZko]

Rofl we can’t sign **** let’s just sign Marco Rojas on loan he ain’t playing much lol

Tommy oar  homesick yet

[ZachMercer]

20 hours ago, GrEmIoWaNdErEr said:

So the bold text says the western Sydney Wanderers of the Australian league are negotiating with the Rayo vallecano for the possible incorporation of the player of 25 years lass bangoura  so rest of the article is talking about the player and how they right now are negotiating wages between club and player and deal could be struck soon so pretty much the same website said or rumoured Vargas going to jets so I believe that this lass bangoura will be heading here and also this guy would be great signing to boost our attack 

Haha. Someone updated his Wikipedia page to say we're his current team.

[JayZko]

Yay

[marron]

Ive been wearing a rayo tshirt to games for yonks

Hersi, Foxe, Bangoura, I'm getting through them...

[Zelinsky]

Mack,

From previous experience, players who have not been offered a contract extension around this time of the year are likely to be gonsky, with a couple of exceptions? Is that your expectation as well? If so then we might lose 5 of our starting 11, and 5 of our nominal bench players, or something like that. If a couple of players who are contracted until 18/19 move on as well then we'll look at another near total rebuild, what do you reckon?

Expiring End 2017/18
Alvaro Cejudo (Foreign, Marquee)
Brendon Santalab
Brendan Hamill 
Jack Clisby
Jerrad Tyson
Jonathan Aspropotamitis
Marcelo Carrusca
Michael Thwaite
Raul Llorente (Foreign)
Robbie Cornthwaite
Steven Lustica
Vedran Janjetovic

 

[mack]

Having a look at our database of players, contracts & extensions seem to be in one of a few categories:

1) Extensions for first team players are usually signed between mid-December to mid-January (Poljak, Covic, Haliti's 2nd extension, Cole)
2) Occasionally players are signed to long-term extensions around September after signing a new contract in December/January the season before (Poljak again)
3) Players who come to the club on 1 or 2 year deals but don't stay longer (Nichols, Bouzanis) and those who got extensions but we let go (NTS, Covic)
4) Players outside the first team squad who we were probably looking to replace but didn't find anyone, getting a new contract in May after the season ends (Haliti's first extension, Trifiro)

I don't believe the club have announced any extensions at all which might be a symptom of Gombau's late arrival and our inconsistent form.

From that list:

Out:
Cejudo - Utter flop. Turns 34 in a couple weeks. Not a Gombau signing. Marquee. He would need a massive turnaround to deserve another year. Assuming he doesn't just retire outright.
Thwaite - Gombau will want younger defenders more comfortable on the ball. He'll be 35 years old when the new season starts. Out of the two Thwaites he's the one I think Gombau would retain if he keeps 1 of them.
Cornthwaite - Same deal as with Thwaite.
Tyson - His 2nd stint has basically copied the first one. A major injury and not really impressing even in the youth league, with few chances as the first choice keeper stays healthy.
Hamill - Gombau surely recognises his inability to defend and his mediocre technical ability on the ball. Surely.
Lustica - If he stays I'm pretty sure it'll only be a Trifiro style end of the season extension. Hasn't done enough so far to earn a mid-season extension.

And to stay:
Santalab - Unless he wants to retire I can't see the club not offering him a new deal.
Clisby - Stay. I think he's done enough to get a spot.
Carrusca - He's not a foreign player any more, if he doesn't want a huge contract then we might give him another year.
Aspro - If he had a really good season he'd probably be going overseas, but now we might offer a 2 or 3 year deal and let Gombau keep working to improve him.
Llorente - Had a good season so far, done well at both right & left fullback, not a marquee. I can easily see him staying another year.
Vedran - I don't think the market for keepers is particularly great at the moment. The only real potential signing is Lawrence Thomas from Victory.

We would need to sign at least 2 central defenders and 2 wingers. We might upgrade Suman to a first team contract and I think we would have 1 spot left which might go to another central midfielder.

[Zelinsky]

Thanks.

Clisby to be added to the list of outers? If so then that'll be at least seven senior players gone.

Can you see Roly/Herd/Baccus go?

[mack]

Oh. I thought I'd put Clisby in the stay list. I'll edit that. I would think Clisby will stay as fullbacks don't grow on trees and he's done well enough imo to get another year.

I'd be hesitant to assume any players with contracts for next year will leave. They clearly had an opportunity to leave along with Jumpei & Melling and didn't take it, so either they don't want to leave or the club doesn't want them to leave. With that said, I wouldn't say anything is certain until the transfer window is closed.

[Zelinsky]

If the rumours are true that Tarek is coming back then either Clisby or Llorente will be gone.

Quite frankly, I can't see Risdon staying at the club, he'll get snatched up after or during the WC.

I guess the two-year contractors will have to perform for the rest of the season. Roly to me is half the player he was under Merrick at the Nix.

We'll see.