Parramatta Stadium To Be Rebuilt!

This is what I've been saying all along. People and now the clubs themselves are getting sick of the NRL trying to destroy the whole home and away concept. To me, world class is having multiple, small to moderate updated stadiums rather than one or two big behemoths that very rarely come close to capacity. Spend the money from Allianz on all the other suburban grounds to give them a bit more capacity and a face lift.

Looks like anz stadium will get a piece of the upgrade pie.

 

 

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ANZ Stadium

KAPOW! Would you like to see Sydney's Olympic stadium evolve into a world-class permanent rectangle - the National Rectangular Stadium?

 

The NSW Government on Friday committed to the redevelopment of the 80,00-seat ANZ Stadium in the geographical heart of Sydney. That commitment ensures ANZ Stadium will remain the city's home of major events.

 

There are two overarching redevelopment designs for ANZ Stadium - with the absolute priority to get fans dramatically closer to the action and undercover for footy codes played on a rectangular field. We also want to supercharge the game-day atmosphere, create a lively Stadium precinct, improve transport to the Stadium, and deliver a next generation event experience for the fans.

 

One of the plans developed by global engineering and construction company Laing O'Rourke would see seating across all six levels of the Stadium (including Members & Corporate suites seating on Levels 4 and 5 and high-capacity seating on Level 6) moved dramatically closer to the action.

 

The seating build would be steeper than that offered at current rectangular arenas in Brisbane and Sydney, so fans would be right on top of the action.

 

This redevelopment would give Sydney a stadium to equal any major events rectangular stadium in the world!

 

Exciting times! Got any questions? We'll do our best to answer them below:

Timeline Photos · Yesterday at 12:16 ·

 

 

 

 

 

What's the point if major sporting events will be committed to play at Moore Park?

Looks like anz stadium will get a piece of the upgrade pie.

 

 

Via fb

 

 

ANZ Stadium

KAPOW! Would you like to see Sydney's Olympic stadium evolve into a world-class permanent rectangle - the National Rectangular Stadium?

 

The NSW Government on Friday committed to the redevelopment of the 80,00-seat ANZ Stadium in the geographical heart of Sydney. That commitment ensures ANZ Stadium will remain the city's home of major events.

 

There are two overarching redevelopment designs for ANZ Stadium - with the absolute priority to get fans dramatically closer to the action and undercover for footy codes played on a rectangular field. We also want to supercharge the game-day atmosphere, create a lively Stadium precinct, improve transport to the Stadium, and deliver a next generation event experience for the fans.

 

One of the plans developed by global engineering and construction company Laing O'Rourke would see seating across all six levels of the Stadium (including Members & Corporate suites seating on Levels 4 and 5 and high-capacity seating on Level 6) moved dramatically closer to the action.

 

The seating build would be steeper than that offered at current rectangular arenas in Brisbane and Sydney, so fans would be right on top of the action.

 

This redevelopment would give Sydney a stadium to equal any major events rectangular stadium in the world!

 

Exciting times! Got any questions? We'll do our best to answer them below:

Timeline Photos · Yesterday at 12:16 ·

 

 

 

 

 

What's the point if major sporting events will be committed to play at Moore Park?

 

 

 

Mr Baird is determined to ensure the former Olympics site remains Sydney’s major events sports arena, though work is not likely to begin for about seven years.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/sydneys-15-bid-for-sporting-glory-massive-overhaul-of-stadiums-set-to-begin/story-fni0cx12-1227511776729

^^^What's said at the end of that article is encouraging!

 

"Government sources say a new super trust to manage all major venues may decide Allianz only requires a renovation rather than a complete rebuild. The extra money could then be pumped into ANZ.

Knocking down Allianz would be stupid. Apart from smurf fans glass botteling the RBB from the corporate boxes there is not much wrong with Allianz. When it's full it has a great atmosphere.

 

There is nothing much right with ANZ as it stands right now. But a renovated 80k seater - now that would be something. If they were to put a roof on it: it would come off at the derby.

If the capacity isn't changing at Allianz then WTF bother with a rebuild? They'd be better off reducing to 40k and doing and upgrade.

Things are sounding better.

ANZ will have ALL seats moved closer with a steeper rake, ideal result.

 

Parramatta gets a rebuild. Arguably a little light on capacity but it's good.

 

Now there's talk of Allianz just getting a renovation (possibly a major one needed). That would make the most sense.

 

Hopefully we're getting there, sense may be prevailing.

i wonder how anz could work. only level 1 is retractable. the rest of the stadium is built into the ground. how can levels 2-6 be moved in?

i wonder how anz could work. only level 1 is retractable. the rest of the stadium is built into the ground. how can levels 2-6 be moved in?

 

As far as I'm aware on the lower bowl will be rebuilt. The rest will remain as is.

A lot of you guys are forgetting one of the earlier articles posted in the last few days saying the stadium super trust would have the power to veto the stadium rebuild of Allianz to just an upgrade. This would most likely be decided after the Parramatta stadium is built so I don't think we should be getting too worried about it just yet.

 

i wonder how anz could work. only level 1 is retractable. the rest of the stadium is built into the ground. how can levels 2-6 be moved in?

 

As far as I'm aware on the lower bowl will be rebuilt. The rest will remain as is.

 

 

From the upper levels of the side stands.... sure... you're a long way from the action if you're in the upper levels, but you  do get a bird's eye view of it all.  It's ANYWHERE in the stadium at the bottom level that the view is pathetic.  Too low AND too distant. The lower bowl is where the big deficiency lies imo.

I've sat in stadium members seats on half way with around 40k people and didn't love the experience. It was ok.

Also had a seat in the second most expensive category for the Asian Cup final, a poor experience.

Also sat midway up the top most main tier for the stadium opening, might as well have watched it at home on a 14 inch monitor in the next room. Laughable experience.

 

To 'fix' the stadium they'd need to move all the seats.

Is this feasible?

Flytox?

You could suggest that they've announced parra to be built first because it's the highest priority but I don't think that's why they've done it at all. I think the reason why they've done it is because the government know there will be a lot more discussion needed as to how they will go ahead with Allianz and ANZ and it will buy them time. Parra seems pretty much sorted but nothing is nearly as certain with the other two. I'd expect there to be changes.

Of course, there will be plenty of delays and changes. Even in simple project.

 

 

i wonder how anz could work. only level 1 is retractable. the rest of the stadium is built into the ground. how can levels 2-6 be moved in?

 

As far as I'm aware on the lower bowl will be rebuilt. The rest will remain as is.

 

 

From the upper levels of the side stands.... sure... you're a long way from the action if you're in the upper levels, but you  do get a bird's eye view of it all.  It's ANYWHERE in the stadium at the bottom level that the view is pathetic.  Too low AND too distant. The lower bowl is where the big deficiency lies imo.

 

the lower tier where the seating is very distant and flat is the problem but along with that level 6 is horrible to sit at. despite the birds eye view, you feel as though you are 100 metres above the game and a good 50 metres away from the game. also the upper tiers feel like a funeral, i sat there for the tottenham vs sydney fc game and from there the chants could barely be heard (in b4 any arsenal fans)

Arsenal fans complain they can't hear chants in their own stadium now no need to throw in disclaimer lol

 

 

 

i wonder how anz could work. only level 1 is retractable. the rest of the stadium is built into the ground. how can levels 2-6 be moved in?

 

As far as I'm aware on the lower bowl will be rebuilt. The rest will remain as is.

 

 

From the upper levels of the side stands.... sure... you're a long way from the action if you're in the upper levels, but you  do get a bird's eye view of it all.  It's ANYWHERE in the stadium at the bottom level that the view is pathetic.  Too low AND too distant. The lower bowl is where the big deficiency lies imo.

 

the lower tier where the seating is very distant and flat is the problem but along with that level 6 is horrible to sit at. despite the birds eye view, you feel as though you are 100 metres above the game and a good 50 metres away from the game. also the upper tiers feel like a funeral, i sat there for the tottenham vs sydney fc game and from there the chants could barely be heard (in b4 any arsenal fans)

 

I don't disaree with that at all... I've only once been above level 4. That was at the Olympics.  What goes on below does feel VERY remote... and I'd never opt for that.... but you can at least see the overall pattern of events.

 

I've been in the middle on levels 3-4 which have been pretty good.

 

 I've been behind  the goals in that upper tier at the Western end?? Hated it at first, then enjoyed a perspective on the game I'd never experienced before. But you're still a loooong way back.

 

I've been lower level on the sides... you're ridiculously distant from the game even ten rows back... but you can follow the game.

 

And I've been in the corners and behind the goals lower level.... and they are pathetic Watched most of the action from the screens.

 

Fix the lower levels, and get a lot of improvement imo.

 

i wonder how anz could work. only level 1 is retractable. the rest of the stadium is built into the ground. how can levels 2-6 be moved in?

 

As far as I'm aware on the lower bowl will be rebuilt. The rest will remain as is.

 

Not necessarily so.  There is a radical plan to gut the entire seating bowl and rebuild the whole of it in rectangular form.  The result would be a 75k-ish stadium.  The cost mentioned is $600m which is way under replacement cost for an iconic stadium of that capacity.

 

 

i wonder how anz could work. only level 1 is retractable. the rest of the stadium is built into the ground. how can levels 2-6 be moved in?

 

As far as I'm aware on the lower bowl will be rebuilt. The rest will remain as is.

 

 

From the upper levels of the side stands.... sure... you're a long way from the action if you're in the upper levels, but you  do get a bird's eye view of it all.  It's ANYWHERE in the stadium at the bottom level that the view is pathetic.  Too low AND too distant. The lower bowl is where the big deficiency lies imo.

 

You should go and watch a football game at the MCG.  The bottom bowl there is flatter and way further away than ANZ.

You could suggest that they've announced parra to be built first because it's the highest priority but I don't think that's why they've done it at all. I think the reason why they've done it is because the government know there will be a lot more discussion needed as to how they will go ahead with Allianz and ANZ and it will buy them time. Parra seems pretty much sorted but nothing is nearly as certain with the other two. I'd expect there to be changes.

The great thing about this is that Parramatta is basically a done deal. It sounds like we won't have to wait for the Supertrust to be established. Politically though, will this proposal go to a vote? What are the political steps (if any) that will need to be overcome to get the Parramatta rebuild approved?

Edited September 6, 2015 by Alexander

You could suggest that they've announced parra to be built first because it's the highest priority but I don't think that's why they've done it at all. I think the reason why they've done it is because the government know there will be a lot more discussion needed as to how they will go ahead with Allianz and ANZ and it will buy them time. Parra seems pretty much sorted but nothing is nearly as certain with the other two. I'd expect there to be changes.

Pirtek is the only one that has capacity constraints and is in Western Sydney where the Government is doing catch up in the provision of services after decades of underspending there.  These are the major reasons for its priority.

wendybr,

 

Permanently rectangularising the bottom tier at ANZ will make a huge difference to the atmosphere because the reduced distances between the 45,000 fans at that level greatly increases sound intensity.  Its a matter of physics.  It will also bring viewing distances for most of those fans within FIFA's optimum viewing distance of 90m from the centre of the pitch but both viewing and noise above that level will remain suboptimal.  Its interesting that only about 5 rows at the black of the nose bleeds exceed FIFA's recommended maximum viewing distance.  Bringing all levels in, although costly, is the ideal solution.

If Wanderland 2.0 does get up and running I still would love to see my vision of the National Museum of Australian Football & Soccer be integrated into the structure 

 

https://themanfredfiles.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/if-you-build-it-they-will-come-or-where-is-our-national-museum-for-football/

If Wanderland 2.0 does get up and running I still would love to see my vision of the National Museum of Australian Football & Soccer be integrated into the structure 

 

https://themanfredfiles.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/if-you-build-it-they-will-come-or-where-is-our-national-museum-for-football/

Have you written to Gallop/FFA and the Premier about it?  I think it is worth taking up in official channels.

 

The FFA appointed a panel of historians to advise them a few years ago.  They might be good for support of the idea.

Edited September 6, 2015 by Flytox

I have only been to level 6 at ANZ once, Australia v Uruguay for 2006 World Cup qualifier, players look like ants, so far away from everything!

I have only been to level 6 at ANZ once, Australia v Uruguay for 2006 World Cup qualifier, players look like ants, so far away from everything!

 

Been to Level 6 a few times, from the Olympic Opening ceremony through to Socceroo games against South Africa and the AFC Cup Final. It's not like say higher levels of Newy Stadium where the angle and height work to help the view, that's for sure. Having said that with a capacity of up to 110,000 ANZ was never going to match the intimacy of a 30K stadium. Bet the same would be said of sitting in the gods at the MCG, or maybe even some of the o/s stadia.

I was in the back couple of rows at ANZ several years ago for Rugby World Cup match. Yes ant like as others have mentioned. But also physically demanding to get to my seat. Now they are talking about a steeper rake - sounds heart attack inducing to me!

I was in the back couple of rows at ANZ several years ago for Rugby World Cup match. Yes ant like as others have mentioned. But also physically demanding to get to my seat. Now they are talking about a steeper rake - sounds heart attack inducing to me!

The roof slopes in towards the pitch so steeper means less rows.  

I remember that 2005 match, everytime I stood up, I felt like I was going to fall forward, if you weren't careful, you almost did fall forward lol

Knocking down Allianz would be stupid. Apart from smurf fans glass botteling the RBB from the corporate boxes there is not much wrong with Allianz. When it's full it has a great atmosphere.

There is nothing much right with ANZ as it stands right now. But a renovated 80k seater - now that would be something. If they were to put a roof on it: it would come off at the derby.

100% agree with first part of your post about allianz. No one has been able to adequately explain to me why it needs all that money spent on it. Having been to a few stadiums around the world I think for atmosphere/actually watching football it is right up there and to me it still seems fit for purpose.

The nou camp has a rake so steep and goes so high I was scared to look down.