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  • Wanderers Dumped From Finals In Week One


    The second elimination final of the A-League finals series took place in Parramatta with Melbourne Victory booking their spot in the two legged semi-final against Premiership winners Auckland FC, following their comfortable 2-1 win against an atrocious low energy Wanderers rabble, Victory scoring through Kasey Bos & Zinedine Machach either side of Zac Sapsford and his only goal of the game for the home team.

    Both teams were unchanged from their results in the final week of the regular season, Western Sydney securing their home final with a 3-1 win over Macarthur, Victory with a 1-1 draw against Newcastle that ultimately didn't matter with their 5th place finish. Alex Bonetig had come off early in the final round but he was in his normal central defensive position. Victory were missing Mitch Langerak in goals due to his ongoing foot injury, Alex Badolato ineligible to play due to his status as a Victory loan player from WSW. Both teams had serious firepower off the bench, the visitors had Bruno Fornaroli and the home team Marcus Antonsson and Juan Mata.

    Melbourne Victory had the best chance of the opening stages, with Nishan Velupillay beating Gabriel Cleur for pace and his cutback was met by Zinedine Machach only for the fullback from the other side, Alex Gersbach swooped in with a key block. The Wanderers countered lightning quick to turn the Victory around and causing 20 year old defender Joshua Inserra to drag the attacker down on halfway and copped a clear yellow card.

    The Wanderers didn't heed the warning of the opening minutes and paid the price. Victory fullback Kasey Bos took advantage of Cleur getting caught ballwatching & drifting well inside, Daniel Arzani found him with a simple ball and the fullbacks second touch was a shot that Thomas got a hand to but couldn't stop from falling past him into the back of the net to make it 1-0 after 7 minutes.

    It was a simple combination from Borrello and Sapsford that drew the teams level. Borrello received the ball facing toward goal right in front, he took a stutter step to deceive and distract the defence from the run of Sapsford on his right, played the ball in neatly with the space given and Sapsford blasted it past Jack Duncan with the help of a deflection.

    Alex Gersbach had a double chance on the 37th, the ball fell into an acre of space inside the Victory area and he sprinted on and Ryan Teague came across at just the right time to block it out for a corner that Anthony Pantazopoulos rose highest at the back stick but couldn't get on target.

    Machach retained the lead for the Victory with 4 minutes left in the first half. Arzani started the move on the left wing, beating a pair of challenges from Nicolas Milanovic and then Cleur, cutting back from the byline, Kraev did enough to prevent an initial strike but no-one in red & black was in position to stop Machach's instinctive side foot effort that navigated through a sea of legs and past Thomas who was still on the turf having dived prematurely moments earlier. The half-time 2-1 lead was a deserved one for Victory having punished Cleur for his weak tackling and poor positional play.

    There was little reaction after the break, Victory continued with their superior ball & player movement and threw in a pitch of classic time wasting whenever a foul went their way the player would take a seat and be allowed to receive treatment instead of having to leave the field or get up and play on. With 18 to go in regulation Alen Stajcic went for a triple change with Antonsson, Mata & Jarrod Carluccio on for some much needed energy & technical quality. Josh Brillante, Sapsford & Cleur made way. Seconds later Velupillay almost added a 3rd with an ambitious turning volley that flashed past the far post.

    Borrello won a free kick not far out from goal in the 74th minute, Duncan set his wall while Milanovic & Mata stood over the ball. Milanovic looked more likely to shoot and he tried the Ronaldo style dipper but it hit the wall and the rebound went to Mata who dinked it back into mixer only to find that no-one had managed to retreat enough to make a second run. Josh Rawlins came in for the final 10 in place of the carded Inserra.

    Mata had spent half the season looking for his second A-League goal and it seemed to have arrived on a silver platter when Gersbach took advantage of a cramp to Arzani who went down in the box instead of defending, and expected Gersbach to play the ball out. Instead Gersbach played it across the 18 yard box and with the whole of the stadium expecting him to bulge the old onion bag he blazed it over the bar like it was a Pantazopoulos goal kick. Arzani made way for Santos Rodrigues as a result of the cramp, followed by Fornaroli & Jing Reec on for Velupillay & Machach and the Wanderers final throw of the dice Aydan Hammond for Milanovic who had tried hard but failed to have any significant impact.

    There was precious little attacking thrust in the final seconds, the Wanderers starters were out on their feet and all they could muster was a quarter-chance where the two central defenders combined for Pantazopoulos to head it well wide. One final opportunity to spring forward came with Mata & Priestman but summed up the game when Priestman managed to send a 3 meter pass over the sideline instead of forward to enable an attack.

    It was an insipid, limp, dismally poor second half, there was maybe two good chances in the entire 50 minutes played and none of the subs made any impact whatsoever. Mata finally had his chance to display his quality and drag his team back level but instead he turned into an AFL player and put his shot up and over the goals so much it might have hit passing traffic on the O'Connell Street bridge.  This season was yet another that began poorly and was only rescued by a late charge, but just like in 2022/23 the first finals game proved too much of a hurdle to jump, leaving the fans frustrated yet again with a wasted season. The Wanderers now have to rebuild for a likely October kickoff for 2025/26 under the auspices of a new salary cap direction, without Milanovic and a raft of players coming off contract including Mata, Sapsford, Cleur, Antonsson and Clisby.

    The remainder of the finals series will be Auckland FC vs Melbourne Victory & Western United vs Melbourne City in a two legged Semi-Final followed by the A-League Grand Final to be played on Saturday 31st of May or Sunday 1st of June.


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    EmMac

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

    I thought we were awful that second half.

    i would be less of a grumpy ****er tonight if I felt we had a real go..but I don’t feel we did. Sitting there and watching and knowing that tactically they have your number, that their game plan is working a treat and NOTHING changes, even with the subs…

    People are more accepting of what they see than me…which is fair enough, we all have our own opinions here.

    I will feel better tomorrow.

    I think they figured us out and we didn't do the same. It was 2-1, not 4-1.  Frustrating cause we've been better.  I intensely dislike this victory team so it's really annoying that they beat us. Tonight shite, overall season? B+ can do better

    VedranRozic

    Posted

    Oh and while I am in my foul mood..

    The pitch was an absolute disgrace for a normal game let alone finals series. Football yet again demonstrating that it has zero power in this country.

    Smoggy

    Posted

    15 minutes ago, matty said:

    C+ season for me.

    Straight C, slipped from C+ because that second half pissed me off so much.

    MathyouWSW

    Posted

    Carluccio was a 'panic signing'.

    Clisby wasn't playing at his best, Staj couldn't find a replacement and decided to sign Carluccio as a back-up left back. However, they would eventually get Gersbach. The signings of Pelekanos, Temelkovski and Holliday were made mostly likely cause of salary cap reasons?

    scarcev

    Posted

    Flat game all round, stadium was flat, fans were flat and even active was flat.  We just **** the bed, we didn't play anywhere near our best, we were outmuscled on so many challenges tonight and got what we deserved.  They were playing a sudden death game we just turned up and waited for them to lie down and they didn't.  We should have put Arzani on his ass 5 minutes in and copped a yellow, he then drifts out of the game like he has all season, give him one early and you don't see him, instead we defended him like he was Messi and he looked like it.  We finally put a challenge on him in the 65th and he went off in the 70th.  Milanovic's could not get into the game and when he did get the ball he just shot on sight which was awful. Borello ran heaps but no quality that one turn easy to defend, same for Sapsford and our defence out wide was awful and our midfield was not needed as we just bombed over their heads all night and when they finally did get a touch our first thought was always backwards. 

    Want to avoid this again, finish top 2 you effectively get 3 chances, a week off and then even if you bomb the first leg you get another, was a bad night to have a bad night.

    Smoggy

    Posted

    13 minutes ago, scarcev said:

    Flat game all round, stadium was flat, fans were flat and even active was flat.  We just **** the bed, we didn't play anywhere near our best, we were outmuscled on so many challenges tonight and got what we deserved.  They were playing a sudden death game we just turned up and waited for them to lie down and they didn't.  We should have put Arzani on his ass 5 minutes in and copped a yellow, he then drifts out of the game like he has all season, give him one early and you don't see him, instead we defended him like he was Messi and he looked like it.  We finally put a challenge on him in the 65th and he went off in the 70th.  Milanovic's could not get into the game and when he did get the ball he just shot on sight which was awful. Borello ran heaps but no quality that one turn easy to defend, same for Sapsford and our defence out wide was awful and our midfield was not needed as we just bombed over their heads all night and when they finally did get a touch our first thought was always backwards. 

    Want to avoid this again, finish top 2 you effectively get 3 chances, a week off and then even if you bomb the first leg you get another, was a bad night to have a bad night.

    Yep.agree.finish top 2 and stop ******* around with these elimination finals which are unnecessary if you have your shite together. 

    MathyouWSW

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, VedranRozic said:

    Oh and while I am in my foul mood..

    The pitch was an absolute disgrace for a normal game let alone finals series. Football yet again demonstrating that it has zero power in this country.

    The commentators said that right at the start of kick-off. The previous game was the Eels vs Dolphins game on Thursday night. So they had one day to get the ground sorted which was enough time and yet it looked sh*t. The ground doesn't get used again until the 23rd May for an NRL game now. 


    To make matters worse. the ground is being used for a MOTOCROSS EVENT on Saturday 15th November. :xmad:

    Knowing our luck, they would get the boys to play a week later and the field would look like sh*t.

    Hughesy

    Posted

    12 minutes ago, VedranRozic said:

    Oh and while I am in my foul mood..

    The pitch was an absolute disgrace for a normal game let alone finals series. Football yet again demonstrating that it has zero power in this country.

    The pitches in Sydney and Brisbane have been average even for NRL standard. I’m not sure what’s going on with the green keeping but there’s very few grounds on the east coast that are looking passable at the moment.

    MathyouWSW

    Posted

    24 minutes ago, VedranRozic said:

    So much for super-coach Staj. We looked clueless and gutless out there tonight. Outplayed and outfought and Staj had no reaction. Beaten by an academy coach.

    And for all the Staj fans out there how is this for synchronicity. This season we end up exactly where we did in Rude boy’s first full season: finished fourth and then shat the bed in a home elimination final (same score too).

    We all know how Rude’s second full season went. So sure give Staj another two years and see how that is going work. We are never going to win anything with a coach who has not won anything.

    #Stajout

    I do have to ask If Staj gets sacked/leaves the club a 'mutual agreement/signs somewhere else, etc. Who should the club sign to replace him?

    Smoggy

    Posted

    I wanted to go to Melbourne for the final with my son :cry:

    Wanderboy

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

    :grouphug:
     

    Come here ya big lug and have a hug…

    No, I'm really pissed off tonight.

    Maybe I'll accept a hug in the morning. 

    Our one big chance in 10 years to make a real statement in front of a half decent HOME crowd, and we ****ed it.

    scarcev

    Posted

    9 minutes ago, scarcev said:

    Flat game all round, stadium was flat, fans were flat and even active was flat.  We just **** the bed, we didn't play anywhere near our best, we were outmuscled on so many challenges tonight and got what we deserved.  They were playing a sudden death game we just turned up and waited for them to lie down and they didn't.  We should have put Arzani on his ass 5 minutes in and copped a yellow, he then drifts out of the game like he has all season, give him one early and you don't see him, instead we defended him like he was Messi and he looked like it.  We finally put a challenge on him in the 65th and he went off in the 70th.  Milanovic's could not get into the game and when he did get the ball he just shot on sight which was awful. Borello ran heaps but no quality that one turn easy to defend, same for Sapsford and our defence out wide was awful and our midfield was not needed as we just bombed over their heads all night and when they finally did get a touch our first thought was always backwards. 

    Want to avoid this again, finish top 2 you effectively get 3 chances, a week off and then even if you bomb the first leg you get another, was a bad night to have a bad night.

    Two more things, only thing that wasn't flat all night was the pitch and this pissed me off, you have Mata on the park, he has taken set pieces for Chelsea, Manchester United and Spain in World Cups scoring some absolute bangers and Milanovic rocks up and takes the ball off him and duly hits the wall.  Sometimes you got to just know your place, or the Manager needs to step in.

    tardotz

    Posted

    Cannot be too disappointed. Not a very good first half of the season, second half was much better. Finishing 4th was good but we overachieved and we were lucky with other results going out way. Tonight we were back to normal, no plan, outplayed and a defense in disarray.

    Still not convinced with Staj

    Smoggy

    Posted

    11 minutes ago, Wanderboy said:

    No, I'm really pissed off tonight.

    Maybe I'll accept a hug in the morning. 

    Our one big chance in 10 years to make a real statement in front of a half decent HOME crowd, and we ****ed it.

    I feel the same. 

    MathyouWSW

    Posted

    15 minutes ago, Hughesy said:

    The pitches in Sydney and Brisbane have been average even for NRL standard. I’m not sure what’s going on with the green keeping but there’s very few grounds on the east coast that are looking passable at the moment.

    CommBank Stadium currently has three football clubs.

    - Parramatta Eels
    - Penrith Panthers (because of Penrith Stadium get upgraded for the 3rd or 4th time within 10 years)
    - Wests Tigers (got no clue why but they will be using CommBank Stadium more when Leichhardt Oval gets its upgrade). 

    Just looked at CommBank Stadium's upcoming events and that stadium is basically used almost every weekend: https://www.commbankstadium.com.au/events
     

    Smoggy

    Posted (edited)

    14 minutes ago, scarcev said:

    Two more things, only thing that wasn't flat all night was the pitch and this pissed me off, you have Mata on the park, he has taken set pieces for Chelsea, Manchester United and Spain in World Cups scoring some absolute bangers and Milanovic rocks up and takes the ball off him and duly hits the wall.  Sometimes you got to just know your place, or the Manager needs to step in.

    Tbh..I reckon Mata is well done and needs to announce his retirement 12 months ago.

    Edited by Smoggy
    scarcev

    Posted

    Just now, Smoggy said:

    Tbh..I reckon Mata is well done and need to announce his retirement 12 months ago.

    agree 100% but he had just come on and it was a freekick in a beautiful position, if he is not going to fight to take that there is not much more he can offer.

    Smoggy

    Posted (edited)

    12 minutes ago, scarcev said:

    agree 100% but he had just come on and it was a freekick in a beautiful position, if he is not going to fight to take that there is not much more he can offer.

    He didn’t do so well with an even better chance in open play from closer in though did he. That was his moment…right there.

    @StringerBellend took a punt on Mata making a final minute goal or similar..and he was right..that chance came..and he blew it.

    Edited by Smoggy
    Unlimited

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

    He didn’t do so well with an even better chance in open play from closer in though did he.

    Probably due to the pitch it took a bobble

    If the pitch was a carpet, that shot goes into the top corner

    Smoggy

    Posted (edited)

    11 minutes ago, Unlimited said:

    Probably due to the pitch it took a bobble

    If the pitch was a carpet, that shot goes into the top corner

    Give over :lol: 

    Edited by Smoggy
    MathyouWSW

    Posted

    7 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

    Tbh..I reckon Mata is well done and needs to announce his retirement 12 months ago.

    Yeah, he can back his bags and head to San Diego FC since he shares ownership to the club.

    Neverbloom

    Posted

    1 hour ago, sonar said:

    The Kersey Curse strikes again.

    Disappointed with how the season ends. 

    We were not the better side tonight.

    If I want a side to win it then it's Victory. I'd hate Auckland/WU/Melb C to win it.

     

    The victory players were annoying so I disagree with that 😂 but agree with that curse 

    Wanderboy

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

    I feel the same. 

    It's just so Wanderers. 11 match unbeaten streak, going into a semi-final on a roll. Parramatta absolutely pumping again pre-match. Huge march. 16 000 turning up to the game (which was disappointing) but ok nevertheless. And then, we lose. 

    I was so impressed seeing so many families with kids there tonight. Got chatting with a dad and his 6 year old at the Crown before the game. His kid was so excited. This was only their 2nd ever Wanderers game they'd attended. They were all kitted out.

    After that, the amount of mum's and dad's that had kids watching the march through Prince Alfred Park was astounding. These people and kids are our future. 

    Unfortunately, once again, we **** the bed. Just so ******* disappointing.

    I should be used to it though being an Eels fan as well. 

    I suppose that if and when either the Eels or Wanderers actually win something again, it will be all the sweeter after waiting for so long. I just hope we do before I die. 

    Carns

    Posted

    11 minutes ago, Unlimited said:

    Probably due to the pitch it took a bobble

    If the pitch was a carpet, that shot goes into the top corner

    Nah, he ****ed it. Badly.

    Smoggy

    Posted

    15 minutes ago, Carns said:

    Nah, he ****ed it. Badly.

    Just when you need that bit of quality he has…he sends it down the Parramatta river. I said to my son we will get 1 good chance before the end..and that was it.

    Hughesy

    Posted

    9 minutes ago, Wanderboy said:

    I suppose that if and when either the Eels or Wanderers actually win something again, it will be all the sweeter after waiting for so long. I just hope we do before I die. 

    My old man said the exact same thing to me on the way home. For now we turn our full attention to parra for our dose of winter disappointment… 

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Themumf79 said:

    He was, but fmd Cleur was absolutely terrible. Just so so poor in attack and defence. Amazed he was left on as long as was. 

    This why is everyone talking about Carluccio? Yep he's was poor, but he was the first right back of the night to be poor 




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