FFA Confirm Active Support Killing Restrictions

Someone says jump, the FFA ask how high

FIFA minus Blatter = FFA?

So to clarify are they imposing restrictions or proposing restrictions

FFA imposing them but remember its the clubs that get the gate takings (unless its the finals).

You're punishing the wrong people by boycotting.

Not sure if anyone has seen this on FB: from Ultras Mentality Australia and also shared by RBB page. You can view the photos on FB.

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT:

The following 4 photos are about a particular case at WSW where a fan received a ban despite his charges being thrown out of court due to insufficient evidence. Upon a request for his ban to be overturned, the FFA deemed it unnecessary to remove the banning because the 'FFA is not a government agency and as such the obligation to adhere to the rules of precedural fairness and natural justice does not apply to our organisation.' This effectively proves the unfair and autocratic nature of the FFA. Even though under the eyes of the Australian Law and Courts this individual was proven innocent, this makes no difference to the FFA. If they are unwillinging to unban an innocent spectator, this just proves that they are trying to destroy the active fans that 'power the game', that are spalshed on advertisements. Do not be fooled by this catchy slogan, as what has been seen from the State Leagues to the A-league, all active fans are being targetted. The very fact the FFA continually refuse to unban any active fans from all clubs who are deemed innocent by the Courts, demonstrates their attempts to destroy active support. Melbourne Victory has seen the destruction of their terrace due to continuous repressive efforts by the FFA to undo the North Terrace.

This is why all active fans across all clubs and across all leagues need to UNITE to fight against the FFA. We are talking about a complete overhaul to how active supporters are viewed by the FFA and no longer become pawns in their advertising campaigns. If they truly believe we 'power the game,' why do they repress our expression of passion towards our respective clubs? The truth of the matter is, they want to see all active support be reduced to similar cheer squads seen in the AFL. A complete disregard that us fans make the A-league and State Leagues interesting, exciting and unique compared to the AFL and Rugby League. Each week we support our clubs in a manner not seen in other sports in Australia.

This is why UMA is urging all fans to UNITE. We are not asking for the intensity of rivalries to be sidelines, but rather we take a UNITED stance and approach in fighting the FFA in their attempts to destroy active support. Keep posted on this page as more details in a UNITED effort to help fight the FFA will be posted here over the coming months. Keep fighting lads, we will prevail over the dictatorship of the FFA.

People arguing that the FFA are just in banning them due to the "risk" they posses. LOL

Someone was saying they don't think the FFA are out of order.

My response:
"Hypothetically if you happen to be around an incident that you well and truly were not a part of and you get pulled out, banned etc. and then you are acquitted of it all and your FFA 5 year ban still applies, would you not be all "f*** the FFA" about it?"

Need Boban's input, but there might be grounds for relief in equity...

Boban gdesi?!!

 

In reality the action against anti-social behaviour is not driven by Gallop at all.  At a COAG meeting on 7 Dec 2009 all governments in Australia, following a joint investigation by the Police Ministers, agreed to act against the rising issue of youth crime and antisocial behaviour and it is those governments acting in consort that are driving their police forces and their venue managers to enforce the laws and regulations governing behaviour at sporting events.  One of the areas highlighted for attention in the COAG documents is venues of entertainment where youth congregate and where alcohol is consumed. A sporting event at a stadium falls into that category.  Whilst often it may be correct to point out heavy handed policing and overly negative even selective reporting the constant blaming of the FFA for what is government organisations acting in accord with government policy is misguided.

then why doesn't the same thing happen at nrl and afl games?

it might not be gallop but I guarantee you the ffa are behind this and that carnnt de bohun

 

Its Gallop mate, de Boofhead is his patsy/sh!tkicker!

Not sure if anyone has seen this on FB: from Ultras Mentality Australia and also shared by RBB page. You can view the photos on FB.

 

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT:

 

This is why UMA is urging all fans to UNITE. We are not asking for the intensity of rivalries to be sidelines, but rather we take a UNITED stance and approach in fighting the FFA in their attempts to destroy active support. Keep posted on this page as more details in a UNITED effort to help fight the FFA will be posted here over the coming months. Keep fighting lads, we will prevail over the dictatorship of the FFA.

If UMA didn't ban anyone who doesn't agree with there every comment the page would have more legitimacy.

 

Not sure if anyone has seen this on FB: from Ultras Mentality Australia and also shared by RBB page. You can view the photos on FB.

 

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT:

 

This is why UMA is urging all fans to UNITE. We are not asking for the intensity of rivalries to be sidelines, but rather we take a UNITED stance and approach in fighting the FFA in their attempts to destroy active support. Keep posted on this page as more details in a UNITED effort to help fight the FFA will be posted here over the coming months. Keep fighting lads, we will prevail over the dictatorship of the FFA.

 

If UMA didn't ban anyone who doesn't agree with there every comment the page would have more legitimacy.

 

 

I can't believe it. I'm actually agreeing with that Southy dude...  

 

Not sure if anyone has seen this on FB: from Ultras Mentality Australia and also shared by RBB page. You can view the photos on FB.

 

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT:

 

This is why UMA is urging all fans to UNITE. We are not asking for the intensity of rivalries to be sidelines, but rather we take a UNITED stance and approach in fighting the FFA in their attempts to destroy active support. Keep posted on this page as more details in a UNITED effort to help fight the FFA will be posted here over the coming months. Keep fighting lads, we will prevail over the dictatorship of the FFA.

 

If UMA didn't ban anyone who doesn't agree with there every comment the page would have more legitimacy.

 

 

Yeah don't really care about the page, my post was more about the fact that court overturned a banning but FFA simply replied. "'FFA is not a government agency and as such the obligation to adhere to the rules of precedural fairness and natural justice does not apply to our organisation."

Looks like FFA are learning from the best MaFiFA

This is what a dictartorship feels in football terms.

Fans are numbers.

Could the FFA not removing their ban after someone being found not guilt in a court of law be an example of contempt of court?

any organisation can do what ever they like, so everyone should learn from these events and do their best not to be thrown out of games and get banned. I think the "but I was just minding my own business" story is thin at best, although dumb security and police can over react in some instances, and I have seen some law enforcement officers going overboard,  but it is what it is...

You can't point a gun at someone and force them to sell something that belongs to them to someone they don't want to sell it too. If FFA don't want you as a ticketed attendee at their matches then you won't be. They bear the right to refuse entry to anyone, anytime for any reason. This however is poor business practice, as Westpoint learned the hard way

On the surface football is a sport. However, the product "football" now belongs to the entertainment industry, and the main purpose is money making. In the EPL they managed to remove the original active supporters with steep tickets pricing. The WC has become a tournament for the privileged. FIFA was mass booking hotels and re-sell the rooms making a hefty profit. The spectators are just that: spectators. Our attendance is wanted, our participation isn't.

But all is not lost. In Germany, Bayern Munich are implementing a flexible seats which will only exist for international games. For national games the seats will disappear in aluminum boxes, and the lower part of the southern end will be standing only. The active supporters are delighted. Instead, here in Australia active support is being suffocated. 

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The FFA model is flawed. You do not own the game. You caretake the game for the fans.

Suits will come and go - fans remain.

The FFA model is not optimal. It seeks sponsorships, tv rights etc. All these are important but you will only optimise these if the fan model is right.

I have said it before and probably sound like a broken record. If fans are the key stakeholders why arent there fan representatives at the table of the FFA.

The fundamental flaw of the FFA is that football is a combination of a community model and a business model.

They however run it purely as a business model.

Administrators want what we all want, freedom. However they cannot be free if they are reliant on Joe public to fund they're existence, as little Joe's interest in a product changes according to numerous factors such as competition, economy and poor management decisions. Therefore administrators seeking freedom must look to the ever strong corporate dollar, the revolving door that is sponsorship and kickback coin that doesn't dry up, only diminishes irrespective of the paying public. Then they can make important decisions as they please for years on end without reprisal.

But this bubble will burst, and when it does you will find yourself back at the feet of the very mob you snubbed in your quest for independent prosperity. Pandering to their every need in order to squeeze the piddling funds they have to offer, just in a bid to minimise the losses you have generated. A monkey with a tin cup, whoring itself for shekels from passers by.  Begging them not to light flares and smokies

Guys, the whole "innocent in court, guilty by FFA" was brought up at the last fan forum in October last year at the Albion.

De Bohun was asked directly about this stuff and he gave the bs answer "if you believe something has been done in error, come and see me and we'll investigate" which means "I'm going to pretend I care"

Background speaks for itself*

*Mere coincidence 

Background speaks for itself*

 

 

*Mere coincidence 

You talking about the man bag?

Update on this issue from The Jets.

Jets keen to develop stronger bond with fans
By ROBERT DILLON
Sept. 4, 2014, 10:45 p.m.
REACHING OUT: Jets officials are eager to strengthen their bond with fans. Picture: Jonathan Carroll

JETS owner Nathan Tinkler has declared he "can't wait" to sell Newcastle's A-League franchise and sever ties completely with a city that he says "hasn't done anything but s - - t on me".

But as the struggling tycoon waits impatiently for a buyer so he can discard the team he has owned for almost four years, behind the scenes Newcastle officials are making a concerted effort to strengthen the bond with the fans who will keep the turnstiles clicking long after Tinkler has gone.

The Jets announced this week that they are creating a new six-person members committee that will meet four times each year to discuss issues surrounding the "match-day experience".

And in a further development, Newcastle chief executive Robbie Middleby has invited Football Federation Australia officials to meet with disgruntled members of the Squadron in the hope of resolving the dispute over this season's seating arrangements.

The Squadron have vehemently opposed FFA's plan to introduce compulsory ticketing for "active support" areas in all stadiums, describing this proposal as "absurd and overbearing".

Rather than congregate in FFA's designated Bay 60 zone at Hunter Stadium, the Squadron are threatening to stage a boycott by instead buying general-admission tickets and sitting elsewhere.

Middleby said both parties had valid viewpoints and was hopeful the issue could be resolved before the season kicks off in five weeks.

"I can see both sides of the argument, but it's a situation where we'll keep working towards facilitating a compromise that suits everyone..

"The Squadron is obviously very, very important to our club, and active support is very important for the A-League in general.
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"As a club, we want to work with all parties and for that reason I spoke to the FFA yesterday and asked them to come and meet with the Squadron committee and talk through it.

"Hopefully there will be a meeting in the next couple of weeks and they can resolve some differences."

Middleby said there had been strong interest from potential candidates for the members committee, after the club invited nominations via its website this week.

But he stressed the new body was not intended as a replacement for the now-defunct advisory board, disbanded by Tinkler more than two years ago and never replaced, despite a promise from the Hunter Sports Group that it would be "restructured" so that it "re-emerges with contributors from politics, the community, football and commerce".

"We hope the members committee will play an important role, but not so much with strategic decisions like signing players or coaches or how the team should be playing," Middleby said.

"It will be more about trying to work together so there is a forum to discuss things like membership packages, match-day atmosphere, active support and merchandise.

"Basically, we want to open up the lines of communication with our members so that they can have a bit more input and hopefully enjoy the best possible experience on game day."

The Jets believe they are on track to surpass last season's membership tally of 10,200. Their website said yesterday that they had almost 7200 members, 1000 of whom have joined in the past three weeks.

 

Its better than nothing, just hope its not all blow ass and smoke and mirrors for the fans..

Thing is, no matter how well reasoned and common-sense the suggestions put to the FFA are, I can't seem them budging one iota.  Hope I'm wrong.

Thing is, no matter how well reasoned and common-sense the suggestions put to the FFA are, I can't seem them budging one iota.  Hope I'm wrong.

This issue puts the growth of football in Australia at a crossroads in many ways, because if active support falls away, so does game day experience to a massive degree.Need people with vision, and the capacity to defend football culture in the country,

If they change the rule for the jets then they will have to for the rest of the a league as well. Good luck to them but i wouldn't hold my breath

Easy for the jets they will just move bays. All other clubs will still be affected

The FFA probably won't even turn up

Easy for the jets they will just move bays. All other clubs will still be affected

Yep, all they have to do is get regular general admission tickets and go to an empty bay. It is pretty easy for them to get around it, but I understand it is about the principle of the matter.

 

 

Easy for the jets they will just move bays. All other clubs will still be affected

Yep, all they have to do is get regular general admission tickets and go to an empty bay. It is pretty easy for them to get around it, but I understand it is about the principle of the matter.

Interesting to see if there's issues with security if they do that. (being asked to sit down etc)