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  • Kevin Sheedy's Attack on 'Un-Australian' Wanderers


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    Normally I am loathe to watch or even discuss the Australian Modified Gaelic Football League and the newest club, the Greater Wagga-Wagga Canberra Western Sydney Breakfast Point Giants. Today I am over-turning that self-imposed ban due to the comments of Kevin Sheedy at the press-conference following his team's abysmal 135 point loss. I did not watch the game, knowing that even if I were to enjoy AMGFL in the slightest that this match would not be a contest whatsoever. The match attracted a laughably inflated 'official' crowd of 5,830. I can only assume this included the players and coaches for both teams, the staff selling food and drinks to patrons, the face painter out the front of the stadium and the commentators and broadcast staff, and then the AFL decided to double the figure. Perhaps their membership base of 12,052 contains far more cats, dogs, pigs and infant children than we would otherwise suspect.

    After discussing the team and their woeful ability on the field, the topic turned to the way the club had gone about the business of attracting people and building a support base. Kevin Sheedy then made a comment I found incredibly offensive, one that shows that the days of the 'Sheilas, Wogs and Poofters' branding of football in this country are not yet over.
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    "We don't have the recruiting officer called the immigration department, recruiting fans for the West Sydney Wanderers. We have to find fans, because that's what happens when you channel a lot of people into a country, put them in Western Sydney, build a club in one year and they've suddenly got 10,000 fans and 20,000 going to a game."

    What a staggering stupid, and arguably racist comment. It is one that shows yet again what complete ignorance the AMGFL leadership have of the people they supposedly want to support their new club.

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    I hardly know where to begin dissecting the failure of the GWS Giants.

    Firstly, I remind all that the AFL have repeatedly talked about having a $200 million dollar 'war chest' for the Giants. So my first question, is why has any Government spent any money on this failure of a club?

    I will start with the AFL scamming $27 million dollars from various parts of NSW Government to build a ground at the Blacktown Olympic Park, only to see them abandon the facility in order to waste another $45 million of taxpayer funds on redeveloping the Sydney Showground. Skoda Stadium as it is now known, has only once attracted more than the 10,000 that the Blacktown AFL stadium can hold.

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    I could also start with how the ACT Government has gifted GWS with $2.35 million a year for 10 years to play matches at Manuka Oval. And here I was thinking this was a Western Sydney team. What I find most aggravating for this in regards to football, is that the Canberra A-League bid failed due to a lack of funding, even though $2.35 million a year would be enough to cover any losses of a real ACT team playing in Canberra for every match of the A-League season!

    Sheedy and his comment today proved to me without a shadow of a doubt that the AFL & GWS have no clue about the people they want to market their sport and club at.

    If they think that the Western Sydney Wanderers success is solely down to of 'immigrants' coming over to Australia that are 'channeled' into Western Sydney by the Government, bringing their immigrant sport that just happens to be what the Wanderers play thus setting the scene for sold-out crowds and a Grand Final with over 40,000 people at it then they are dead wrong.

    It is another comment in the litany of AFL supporters who brand Football as anti-Australia, as a foreign xenophobic sport not fit for a 'true Australian' to play. It is an statement that football is "Un-Australian".

    This is a sport which is so intent on forcefully branding itself as a true Australian 'legend'. From attempts to takeover Anzac Day, to claiming that AFL is the 'indigenous' game despite said game being a combination of rugby & Gaelic football (Sheedy should look up what country Association Football came from), and the deception of calling it "Australia's Game", despite football being a far more popular participation sport for males, swimming being popular with both male and female and netball being most popular with females.

    Never mind the tiny little fact that half the country prefers Rugby or Rugby Union, and the entire country supports Cricket in various forms, the AFL has grown complacent in having the narratives and marketing spiel replicated word for word across the mainstream media. It has grown so confident that it now has it's own propaganda empire operating under the guise of 'AFL.Com News'.

    Sheedy has bought into the AFL hype about being the true Australian sport. To him and the rest of the stooges at AFL Headquarters, the success of the Wanderers can only be explained away by declaring those Wanderers supporters as immigrants, not truly Australian. They can't possible be real Australian men and women, because they'd be Giants supporters otherwise. The Giants see their job as preaching the Australian gospel of AFL to those immigrant football heathens. That AFL is the one true Australian sport, and we'd best come along and support his team if we want really be Australian.

    Whichever way his comment is sliced it is offensive. His suggestion that because I'm a Wanderers supporter I must be an immigrant is just one way I find it offensive. That being born in Western Sydney, with my parents being born in Western Sydney and my grandparents as well, that supporting the Wanderers and not supporting GWS makes me an un-Australian immigrant.

    The alternative? That people who immigrate to Australia and love football aren't really Australian yet, or that they are invading Australia and latching on to the Wanderers because they haven't yet found out they should love AFL.

    Bullshit.

    Kevin Sheedy your comments are a disgrace not only to Western Sydney but to modern Australian culture as a whole. This country is built on immigration, and people come to Australia to live and learn and be free, they can love or hate whatever sport they like and liking one sport or another has nothing to do with how 'Australian' they are.

    The Wanderers have built their success and fan base not from 'immigration', but from passion for football, and getting our chance to support a club that truly represents Western Sydney in the A-League. No-one in the Wanderers club or support base cares how long ago you moved to Australia, or even if you were born in Australia, or if it was 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 or more generations ago that your family first came to Australia, or if you're from Eastern Europe, or South America, or New Zealand or England or Greece or Spain or Aboriginal or any other country or nationality or ethnicity on the planet.

    Nationality or ethnicity isn't what unites the Wanderers. It has nothing to do with our immigration or non-immigration status.

    What unites the Wanderers is being proud of Western Sydney.

    If Kevin Sheedy and the AFL can't understand that they can take the entire Giants organisation on the next XPT to Canberra and relocate the entire box and dice to a location that appears to actually want an AFL team.

    Update:
    I have obtained a statement from the GWS organisation, signed by chairman Tony Shepherd.

    I first note that to GWS, if you want to be taken seriously, you should adopt local convention and start calling our sport "Football", while you use the common term "AFL". Football in Western Sydney is Football. I've also noticed a tendency to call both forms of Rugby solely "Rugby", instead of Rugby Union and Rugby League. Differentiating those two codes would be appreciated also.

    Our sport is Football, and it is run by Football Federation Australia.

    Please pass this on to your colleagues in Melbourne.

    After filtering out marketing spiel, it contains only one paragraph that refers to his comments:

    His comments were not new. It is something he has expressed a number of times but unfortunately on this occasion they were taken out of context and he has been unfairly subjected to criticism by some people who may not be aware of Kevin's enormous contribution to the community.

    I care about his recent statement, his xenophobic comments that the Immigration Department is recruiting for the Wanderers. Not any 'enormous' contribution to the community in the past. It has nothing to do with his current statement and the current issue of GWS and their views on the 'immigrants' in Western Sydney.

    I care about the implication that those who support the Wanderers are all immigrants and thus un-Australian, as well as labelling this entire region as 'immigrants', despite knowing that all but those of Aboriginal heritage were immigrants at one stage.

    I care about the implications of this statement as they are yet another in a long line of xenophobic comments to come out of the Melbourne AFL establishment that seek to denigrate Football and relegate it as a sport unfit for 'True Australians'.

    GWS were unable to sweep this comments under the carpet because they had been noted on several previous occasions, and from that point, they can only be considered pre-meditated. Craig Foster has also written about a statement of Sheedy's, where he referred to supporters of Football as 'boat people'. These are not off-handstatements, but represent his true views on Football as a sport and the people in Western Sydney.

    Standing by these comments shows a complete lack of empathy or awareness of the people of Western Sydney. It confirms the viewpoint that the AFL sees Western Sydney as heathens to be converted to the church of AFL, and to bring them into what the AFL sees as the "True Australian" sport.

    What 'context' has his words been taken out of? His words were reflected honestly across the media. The only context provided is his own. His 'context' is exactly what he said, "We don't have the recruiting officer called the immigration department, recruiting fans for the West Sydney Wanderers."

    Their refusal to accept that the statement was offensive, xenophobic and out of step with not only Western Sydney but modern Australia as a whole is another example of the AFL Bubble effect. If the AFL and GWS cannot step out of this bubble they will fail even harder than they are already.

    I for one will never support GWS or the AFL, what little chance they had died with Sheedy's comments and his refusal to step up and apologise for them. I am certain I am not the only person to have this viewpoint.

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    Nice Mack.

     

    Tell everyone you know you were thinking of going to a gws match, before this.

     

    This was a premeditated line. He's had two months to perfect it after he said it on the back page. If he honestly didn't realize what he was saying, why is this bloke in charge of engaging with western Sydney?

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    Well said brother. As many of you know, I pushing the establishment of Blocs in Western Sydney. We will spread the gospel for our team with a fraction of the resources of AFL. Using the passion of the people.

     

    This will combat the propaganda. But longer term I am thinking of setting up a media arm to promote football and combat the racism and bigotry.

     

    That is down the track. But we need to stand up for ourselves now.

     

    We need to write letters to newspapers, media outlets and radios. Target other forums. Get all the football brothers involved no matter what team they follow. Stand up and be counted

     

    "I am Australian, I am Western Sydney and I support the Wanderers" spread it far and wide.

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    Another idea is Wanderers fans uniting an holding a protest outside skoda stadium next GWS home match.

     

    You're doing it wrong. Really, we shouldn't be giving them any attention. Just popping up outside the stadium will give the media fuel to again call us hooligans and thugs when we're really not about that. Let them dig their own grave.

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    Another idea is Wanderers fans uniting an holding a protest outside skoda stadium next GWS home match.

     

    You're doing it wrong. Really, we shouldn't be giving them any attention. Just popping up outside the stadium will give the media fuel to again call us hooligans and thugs when we're really not about that. Let them dig their own grave.

    Mate I understand what your saying. We have to be smart about this an I have given this a lot of thought (ur how to fight the propaganda).

     

    I have ignored for decades. But I have come to the elief that we need to stand up for ourselves. You hit a dog enough times it will eventually bite you back. Not stand up through aggression but using our brains. Exposing their ignorance and appealing to people's decency. Eg a silent protest perhaps

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    The **** is getting hammered on twitter. he's now trending apparently.

     

    It's actually more fun watching the tweets fly than trying to sit through a quarter of the shite football his pack of no-hopers call AFL.

     

    Mack, love your work digger!!!

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    Unfortunately I cannot "like" a comment more than once, 

     

    so x10000 to what Shakey said.

     

    they are just trying to make some noise in the media and "look at me! we exist too!" syndrome, because as everyone has always said...no one can give 2 $hits about AFL out here. They are seething that all the millions and years of planning they've spent was usurped in 6 months cobbled together team that captured the hearts and minds of the entire Australian sporting landscape.

     

     

    The burn is strong in this one lolz

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    No westofcentre, the plan should always be to support OUR team and make them huge in their own right. It will piss off AFL even more and they'll continue to say stupid $hit like this and more and more people's eyes will be opened to the truth.

    Giving them attention by turning up enmasse for a protest achieves what they want - give them media space AND negative media against us.

    Why would you want to do that?

    They already cannot fathom "fan marches" *insert evil music* and the like. Showing up as a large group would just confirm their accusations against the "wogs".

     

     

    Also, lulz at his comments regarding the EPL and the FA Cup haha

     

    "Even though the NAB Cup final might not have been played yet, we can still move in and start a season earlier.

    "Just like they have in England ... the FA Cup is still running (at the same time as the Premier League) ... so you can have a two-season prong.

    "We've got to get our game here earlier."

    hahahah, first he rips into football, then he wants to copy how football does its fixturing. But the FA Cup isn't some meaningless p.o.s preseason cup haha

    /facepalm

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    No westofcentre, the plan should always be to support OUR team and make them huge in their own right. It will piss off AFL even more and they'll continue to say stupid $hit like this and more and more people's eyes will be opened to the truth.

    Giving them attention by turning up enmasse for a protest achieves what they want - give them media space AND negative media against us.

    Why would you want to do that?

    They already cannot fathom "fan marches" *insert evil music* and the like. Showing up as a large group would just confirm their accusations against the "wogs".

     

     

    Also, lulz at his comments regarding the EPL and the FA Cup haha

     

     

     

    "Even though the NAB Cup final might not have been played yet, we can still move in and start a season earlier.[/size]

    "Just like they have in England ... the FA Cup is still running (at the same time as the Premier League) ... so you can have a two-season prong.

    "We've got to get our game here earlier."

    hahahah, first he rips into football, then he wants to copy how football does its fixturing. But the FA Cup isn't some meaningless p.o.s preseason cup haha

    /facepalm

    Up until one month ago brother I thought exactly the same as you. Granted maybe a silent fan protest isn't the way to go - but we need to be smarter in how we deal with these things. We need to start to stand up for our game.

     

    Totally take on board your comments about not giving them ammo. You are 100% correct. But we can only turn the other cheek so many times. They continue to attack us because they know they can. Football and the Wanderers are a part of our family. So why do we let a family member continually be attacked and insulted.

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    watching the interview, he just brings up the topic of the wanderers on his own - without being led by a question or asked to make a comparison...i'm sensing some pretty epic butthurt

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    Yep, I was sure he had said this before.

     

    Was starting to think my sixth sense was in overdrive ("wow did I dream that").

     

    Saying it once is ridiculous.

    saying it twice is deplorable.

     

    Nice Mack.

    Tell everyone you know you were thinking of going to a gws match, before this.

    This was a premeditated line. He's had two months to perfect it after he said it on the back page. If he honestly didn't realize what he was saying, why is this bloke in charge of engaging with western Sydney?

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    What is even more catastrophically stupid from the brain-faded bogan is this follow up to the immigration statement..

     

     

    "We’re actually going to start up a whole new ball park and go and find fans because that’s what happens when you bring a lot of people through, channel into a country and put them into the west of Sydney and they build a club like that one year and all of a sudden they’ve got 10,000 fans and probably 20,000 going to a game."

     

    His useless mob of dickheads in orange and black have retreated from the western suburbs of Sydney so quickly you'd need a camera with a  1/10000000th second shutter speed to get a photo of the moment the Skoda Fails decided that they were no longer staying anywhere near Blacktown. That's why his ever-dwindling mob of nomadic noobs and farcical twats have to 'find a whole new ball park and find fans'...they abandoned those who might have made an emotional connect with their Potemkin francise.

     

    The Orange and Black Clowns story can be told in two sad and mind-numblingly self-defeatist narratives. First, the whole Israel Folau farrago. Second the disdain and contempt they feel for the west of Sydney. These are the symptoms of an organisation only one step above the likes of Gold Coast United when it comes to building a successful football club of any code.

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    I do have to say that I don't really take what Sheedy says seriously, so I'm not really upset about the immigrant jibe.  

     

    I'm just laughing that he gave the Wanderers a free plug during his own team's post-game press conference.

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    For those who want video proof of what was said here have a look

     

    no matter how many times i watch it, i'm still left absolutely gobsmacked at how utterly deplorable what he said was.

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    The ignorance is staggering. I am sure the AFL has not condemned his comments or distanced themselves at all.

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    I understand the outrage and shake my head at the statements, but sad to say it, Sheeds loves to stir the pot, make controversial comments and is trying to get as much media attention for his cr#p team as he'd become irrelevant otherwise. After this year, he will retire once and for all so he's probably thinking why not leave it with a bang!

     

    This is the same man who blamed Martians for the Bombers losing, he started the Marshmellow Wars with North Melbourne in the 90s and used a cut-throat gesture to an opponent/umpire (can't remember which one!). All got media attention and distracts the on-field performance of his poor teams.

     

    I'm happy for people to disagree with me, but the best thing is to ignore it and it will just go away...most of western sydney has already done so!

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    Red neck bitter dog!!!! No1 cares about your sh't g.ayFL team , never have n never will..... if your club n sport was to die tomorrow , I wouldn't even notice lol gws waste of space!!!!

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    Excellent article Mack well said :clapping:

     

    The disturbing part is the amount of wasted tax payers money spent on there infrastructure scammed from the government on top of there own $200million investment :bad:

     

     

     

    His comment felt like it was premeditated as i remember him saying something very similar on "thebackpage" not long ago,he will hopefully get punished by AFL knobs.I agree with Erebus and Paulg23 in saying he probably said it for attention, to either cover his teams poor performance or rally up people to hopefully come and go to the next home game.

     

     

    Kevin Sheedy time for you to retire pack your bags and go back to the hole you came from and take GWS with you

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