International Current Affairs (#BidenIn)

[Legionista]

Corporate statements. 
 

lol. 

[StringerBellend]

1 hour ago, Legionista said:

Corporate statements. 
 

lol. 

That’s the bit that offends you?

 

[wendybr]

Legia is cynical to his core, from what I have seen of him...or presents that way here, at least.

I guess he shares the view of those who see the company as having an ulterior motive, like not having their shop windows smashed in?

It IS a very powerful and sadly accurate statement...but do they campaign for equal rights when there aren't such extreme circumstances at play?

 

[sonar]

9 hours ago, wendybr said:

Legia is cynical to his core, from what I have seen of him...or presents that way here, at least.

I guess he shares the view of those who see the company as having an ulterior motive, like not having their shop windows smashed in?

It IS a very powerful and sadly accurate statement...but do they campaign for equal rights when there aren't such extreme circumstances at play?

 

The thing that impressed me was that the statement acknowledged the problems facing people of colour started from the onset of white settlement just as they do in Aus. I wonder whether any Aus large companies would have the balls to come out with something similar.....I doubt it.

 

[StringerBellend]

11 hours ago, wendybr said:

Legia is cynical to his core, from what I have seen of him...or presents that way here, at least.

I guess he shares the view of those who see the company as having an ulterior motive, like not having their shop windows smashed in?

It IS a very powerful and sadly accurate statement...but do they campaign for equal rights when there aren't such extreme circumstances at play?

 

Cynical isn’t the word I would use 
 

from what I have seen of him he’s A supporter of the Far right 

That’s all as maybe that the ice cream people’s  motives are not pure. But this is the only thing he posts on. maybe the source is some company looking after itself but the message holds 

personally I’m more pissed off about a person being killed or his hero using the police to disperse peaceful protesters with tear gas so he can have a photo op.
 

Or the descent of America into a society that is totally split 

the president of the US stirring up a riot

 

[StringerBellend]

14 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

Cynical isn’t the word I would use 
 

from what I have seen of him he’s A supporter of the Far right 

That’s all as maybe that the ice cream people’s  motives are not pure. But this is the only thing he posts on. maybe the source is some company looking after itself but the message holds 

personally I’m more pissed off about a person being killed or his hero using the police to disperse peaceful protesters with tear gas so he can have a photo op.
 

Or the descent of America into a society that is totally split 

the president of the US stirring up a riot

 

Rethinking my post as I genuinely don’t want to be antagonistic, far right is harsh and id hope not the case

So  I’d like to as correct as generally  right wing

apologies if my earlier post is over the top 

I also don’t want to take a personal tone I get people have different opinions 

Edited June 4, 2020 by StringerBellend

[Neverbloom]

3 hours ago, sonar said:

The thing that impressed me was that the statement acknowledged the problems facing people of colour started from the onset of white settlement just as they do in Aus. I wonder whether any Aus large companies would have the balls to come out with something similar.....I doubt it.

 

honestly i like the fact that they are coming out and supporting however i wouldnt call it brave, not many people are anti police violence against minorities so its a pretty safe stance to take, if they came out and supported hong kong that would be brave, that is why you see the likes of blizzard/activision supporting BLM while ignoring hong kong

dont get me wrong i have seen some people posing with signs saying black lives dont matter but that was like 5 toothless rednecks, the majority are not like that

[marron]

Ben and Jerry are literally hippies*. The statement doesn't surprise me in the least. Their ice cream company is very succesful/high profile, but it's not exactly going to be representative of "where things have got to if big companies are making statements".

 

*Please note: they sold the company to Unilever. This negates nothing about them being hippies.

 

Edited June 4, 2020 by marron

[Neverbloom]

a lot of international news here
 

also some conspiracy theory mocking which is amusing, also didnt know about Hungary

[MartinTyler]

So...old mate reckons he was only 'inspecting' the bunker last Friday 

[sonar]

From a Republican.....

....." What we are seeing in these protests is Black,White,Asian,Christian,Muslim,Protestant all coming together to try and put back what has been trashed in our country over the last 3 years ".....

https://podcast.thebulwark.com/michael-steele-somethings-happening-here

[Paul01]

Scumbo the dictator 

PM tells people not to attend Black Lives Matter protests over coronavirus fears http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/pm-tells-people-not-to-attend-black-lives-matter-protests/12325210

[mack]

 

[Wanderboy]

^^^^^

 

 

[MathyouWSW]

 

The Rock laying some smackdown on Trump, loved it.

[pseudonym]

 

[marron]

6 hours ago, Paul01 said:

Scumbo the dictator 

PM tells people not to attend Black Lives Matter protests over coronavirus fears http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/pm-tells-people-not-to-attend-black-lives-matter-protests/12325210

(but going to the footy next week will be fine)

[wendybr]

3 hours ago, marron said:

(but going to the footy next week will be fine)

Gotta get your priorities right!

[Midfielder]

Every now and then Joe writes a very decent article... i think this is one.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-protests-expose-the-greatest-myth-of-our-time/news-story/9fb933f5be80e1d0f3624e57aa8e3e4f

 

 

 

[mack]

The first part of that is a bit odd, given that the UK gave Germany the chance to withdraw from Poland and that would have stopped WW2 before it even began. Churchill's "deliberation" about a surrender/peace deal in 1940 wasn't about if he wanted to fight or not (Churchill never wanted to surrender or ask for a peace deal), it was about the political manuvering that he needed to ensure the country kept fighting.

The rest is just victim blaming garbage, retreading the same lines that were used to discredit MLK and the civil rights movement.

I'm sure ole Joe would have been writing letters telling the French to knock it off with all the beheadings because it would only strength the monarchist movement. He's also the exact type of bland neocon that would say "Kapernick shouldn't be doing a kneeling protest". It's all rubbish, people like Joe will always come up with a reason to discredit protest movements. Not because "they're scared that it makes the 'left' protests look bad in the eyes of the conservatives" but because he simply doesn't give a ****, he will never accept protests against capitalist & racist ideology.

[Midfielder]

21 minutes ago, mack said:

The first part of that is a bit odd, given that the UK gave Germany the chance to withdraw from Poland and that would have stopped WW2 before it even began.

The rest is just victim blaming garbage, retreading the same lines that were used to discredit MLK and the civil rights movement.

I'm sure ole Joe would have been writing letters telling the French to knock it off with all the beheadings because it would only strength the monarchist movement. He's also the exact type of bland neocon that would say "Kapernick shouldn't be doing a kneeling protest". It's all rubbish, people like Joe will always come up with a reason to discredit protest movements. Not because "they're scared that it makes the 'left' protests look bad in the eyes of the conservatives" but because he simply doesn't give a ****, he will never accept protests against capitalist & racist ideology.

I read it differently ..... as for Kapernick I could be wrong but I think he wrote an article in praise of his stance...

Being involved over the years in a number of protests my experience has been if you overplay your hand you give the other side for want of a better team the upper hand and the advantage and that's what I read into the article...

 

 

 

[marron]

He's saying they shouldn't protest because it might lead to an authoritarian government (because "socialism" i guess).

Meanwhile trump is using the military to crack down on his people, destroying the free press, getting rid of any independent oversight over government he can manage.

Joe's a ****in idiot middy.

[Cynth]

No I agree with Middy. What Joe seems to be condemning is violence and riots, not the protesters and it’s true to say that the riots do damage to the cause of the protesters because it demonstrates that people should be fearful. That’s why the rioters were not necessarily out of control protesters but they were extremist groups, including the far right and the far left because their goal is the descent into anarchy rather than the improvement of society. 

[marron]

It's bollocks.

We saw it in our own city on Saturday.

The vast majority are doing it peaceful, but the cops go to antagonise and make sure Sky is there to make the headlines. That feeds in to people's perceptions, and Joe (and many many others) are happy to continue these perceptions and pretend like the anarchists are hugely powerful and able to collapse society and we should definitely be scared and absolutely just do what we are told by authorities right now.

The other part is, that rioting is a reaction to the authoritarianism that already exists. Being patient and trying to get things changed through democratic channels leads to nothing changing. We haev seen that for decades. Which of course is what Joe wants.

[marron]

I mean look.

He is making an equivalence between

-the systemic discrimination and murder of minority groups

-middle class people getting upset because of civil unrest which is being compounded by an increasingly authoritarian leader.

**** George Floyd. Won't somebody think of the small business owner whose window got smashed? (Of course, they are only important to Joe because true change will come if you get them onside and they can vote in a Democratic candidate who is slightly left of Biden. Yeah, I believe that, nice one Joe, that's the way).

 

[sonar]

1 hour ago, Cynth said:

No I agree with Middy. What Joe seems to be condemning is violence and riots, not the protesters and it’s true to say that the riots do damage to the cause of the protesters because it demonstrates that people should be fearful. That’s why the rioters were not necessarily out of control protesters but they were extremist groups, including the far right and the far left because their goal is the descent into anarchy rather than the improvement of society. 

I agree with you but it doesn't take much for extremists on the left or right to infiltrate ( ? ) a movement that is in opposition to  their belief system and try and cause chaos from within or take actions to discredit it. This happening in a lot of places.....not just the US.

[marron]

Note there's no mention of the far right infilitration - these guys setting fires and stuff - in Joe's article. It's all these lefty student types who are doing the damage.

Not to mention his history is plenty wonky. What's he even trying to say with that stuff?

[mack]

People like Joe care more about insured property than they care about people being murdered by the police.

[StringerBellend]

a total and complete prick, he also will say anything for money.
 

I suspect he doesn’t believe most of what he writes 

He knows how to write an article that will push all the right news Ltd (Culture war) approved buttons.
 

I couldn’t finish that drivel I started scanning after his bong smoking art student line

 

 

[Legionista]

Typical Joe,

So tricky, he tricked himself.