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    Potential Group Of Death Awaits Wanderers In ACL 2015.


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    The Western Sydney Wanderers face a potential Group of Death in Group H of the 2015 Asian Champions League, having been drawn alongside Guangzhou Evergrande of China, and potentially with Urawa Red Diamonds of Japan & FC Seoul of Korea.

     

    The draw took place this evening, with the big talking point for Australian followers being the draw of defending ACL Champions the Western Sydney Wanderers against Guangzhou Evergrande, the team the Wanderers defeated in a spiteful home & away tie on their fairytale run to the final. Evergrande qualified as the 2014 Chinese Super League champions and will be keen to avenge their defeat from last season.

     

    The teams who will contest the play-off for Group H will be FC Seoul who are seeded to the East 1 play-off game, with Ha Noi T&T of Vietnam facing up to Persib Bandung of Indonesia for the right to play the K-League 3rd placed side. The Koreans are no strangers to the Wanderers, having been defeated 2-0 on aggregate last year in the Semi-Final of the competition.

     

    The Japanese team in the group is yet to be confirmed. The Emperor's Cup of 2014 will be contested in a few days time, with J-League winners Gamba Osaka taking on 2nd Division Montedio Yamagata. Should an boilover occur the Wanderers will be joined by Urawa Red Diamonds, the club where Shinji Ono began his professional career. If the expected result comes to fruition then 3rd placed J-League side Kashima Antlers will take the spot, a team

    managed by legendard Brazilian defensive midfielder Toninho Cerezo.

     

    Brisbane Roar are in Group G, with only Suwom Bluewings of Korea confirmed in their group, their Japanese opponents will be either Montedio Yamagata or Urawa. The final spot will be contested via the Qualifier play-offs, between Beijing Guoan, Guangzhou R & F (both of China), Johor Darul Ta'zim of Malaysia and Bengaluru of India.

     

    The Central Coast Mariners are the final Australian team involved. They will play a do or die qualifying play-off on the 17th of February against either Bankgok Glass of Thailand, Yadanarbon of Burma or the Warriors of Singapore. If victorious the will enter Group F along with Gamba Osaka, Seongnam & Buriram United.

     

    The final group comprises of Jeonbuk Hyundai, Shandong Luneng, Binh Duong & the winner of qualifying play-off #2.

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    If the scedule is the same as last year we would be playing:

     

    Matchday 1: Guangzhou away

    M 2: Japan 3 at home

    M3: Play off winner at home

    M4: Play off winner away

    M5 Guangzhou at home

    M6: Japan 3 away

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I think... :ninja:

    Edited by danielcarr

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    If the scedule is the same as last year we would be playing:

     

    Matchday 1: Guangzhou away

    M 2: Japan 3 at home

    M3: Play off winner at home

    M4: Play off winner away

    M5 Guangzhou at home

    M6: Japan 3 away

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I think... :ninja:

    Before Matchday 1 we play Adelaide away on the Saturday.

    and after matchday 1 we have the Derby at home

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    So it goes,

    ACL home and away assuming that danielcarr is correct with the ACL home and aways
     
    Adelaide away

    ACL M1 - away

    Home Derby
    ACL M2 - Home

    Brisbane Away

    M. City Home (Wednesday night)

    Victory Away (Friday night) 1 day turn around wtf!

    ACL M3 - Home

    Newcaslte Home

    Brisbane Away (Wednesday night)

    Perth Away

    M.City Home

    ACL M4 - Away

    Mariners Away

    Adelaide Home'

    ACL M5 - Home

    Perth Home (ANZAC Day)

    Finals wk1

    ACL M6 - Away

    Finals wk2

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    So it goes,

     

    ACL home and away assuming that danielcarr is correct with the ACL home and aways

     

    Adelaide away

    ACL M1 - away

    Home Derby

    ACL M2 - Home

    Brisbane Away

    M. City Home (Wednesday night)

    Victory Away (Friday night) 1 day turn around wtf!

    ACL M3 - Home

    Newcaslte Home

    Brisbane Away (Wednesday night)

    Perth Away

    M.City Home

    ACL M4 - Away

    Mariners Away

    Adelaide Home'

    ACL M5 - Home

    Perth Home (ANZAC Day)

    Finals wk1

    ACL M6 - Away

    Finals wk2

    Victory at home im pretty sure

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    So looks like we face 2 of the teams we played against in the knock-out phase last season.

     

     

    http://www.the-afc.com/uploads/afc/files/acl_2015_competition_regulations_final.pdf

     

    11.2.1. Matchday (MD) 1: 1 v 4; 3 v 2
    11.2.2. MD2: 4 v 3; 2 v 1
    11.2.3. MD3: 4 v 2; 1 v 3
    11.2.4. MD4: 2 v 4; 3 v 1
    11.2.5. MD5: 4 v 1; 2 v 3
    11.2.6. MD6: 1 v 2; 3 v 4

     

    Group H which looks like this:

     

    1) Guangzhou Evergrande

    2) WSW

    3) Japan 3 (Urawa Red Diamonds or Kashima Antlers)

    4) Playoff 1 (likely to be FC Seoul; or 1 of Ha Noi T&T of Vietnam facing up to Persib Bandung of Indonesia 

     

    So based on regulations above, our draw looks like this:

     

    MD1 (24/25 Feb) - Japan 3 vs WSW

    MD2 (3/4 Mar) - WSW vs GZE

    MD3 (17/18 Mar) - PO1 Winner vs WSW

    MD4 (7/8 Apr) - WSW vs PO1 Winner

    MD5 (21/22 Apr) - WSW vs Japan 3

    MD6 (5/6 May) - GZE vs WSW

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    So it goes,

     

    ACL home and away assuming that danielcarr is correct with the ACL home and aways

     

    Adelaide away

    ACL M1 - away

    Home Derby

    ACL M2 - Home

    Brisbane Away

    M. City Home (Wednesday night)

    Victory Away (Friday night) 1 day turn around wtf!

    ACL M3 - Home

    Newcaslte Home

    Brisbane Away (Wednesday night)

    Perth Away

    M.City Home

    ACL M4 - Away

    Mariners Away

    Adelaide Home'

    ACL M5 - Home

    Perth Home (ANZAC Day)

    Finals wk1

    ACL M6 - Away

    Finals wk2

    Victory at home im pretty sure

     

    Victory on Friday 13th March??

    according to the clubs website it's away

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    So it goes,

     

    ACL home and away assuming that danielcarr is correct with the ACL home and aways

     

    Adelaide away

    ACL M1 - away

    Home Derby

    ACL M2 - Home

    Brisbane Away

    M. City Home (Wednesday night)

    Victory Away (Friday night) 1 day turn around wtf!

    ACL M3 - Home

    Newcaslte Home

    Brisbane Away (Wednesday night)

    Perth Away

    M.City Home

    ACL M4 - Away

    Mariners Away

    Adelaide Home'

    ACL M5 - Home

    Perth Home (ANZAC Day)

    Finals wk1

    ACL M6 - Away

    Finals wk2

    Victory at home im pretty sure

     

    Victory on Friday 13th March??

    according to the clubs website it's away

     

    according to membership site its home....

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    So it goes,

    ACL home and away assuming that danielcarr is correct with the ACL home and aways

     

    Adelaide away

    ACL M1 - away

    Home Derby

    ACL M2 - Home

    Brisbane Away

    M. City Home (Wednesday night)

    Victory Away (Friday night) 1 day turn around wtf!

    ACL M3 - Home

    Newcaslte Home

    Brisbane Away (Wednesday night)

    Perth Away

    M.City Home

    ACL M4 - Away

    Mariners Away

    Adelaide Home'

    ACL M5 - Home

    Perth Home (ANZAC Day)

    Finals wk1

    ACL M6 - Away

    Finals wk2

    At least we can't complain about not getting enough WSW, but **** me that schedule!! What a horror run!

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    So it goes,

     

    ACL home and away assuming that danielcarr is correct with the ACL home and aways

     

    Adelaide away

    ACL M1 - away

    Home Derby

    ACL M2 - Home

    Brisbane Away

    M. City Home (Wednesday night)

    Victory Away (Friday night) 1 day turn around wtf!

    ACL M3 - Home

    Newcaslte Home

    Brisbane Away (Wednesday night)

    Perth Away

    M.City Home

    ACL M4 - Away

    Mariners Away

    Adelaide Home'

    ACL M5 - Home

    Perth Home (ANZAC Day)

    Finals wk1

    ACL M6 - Away

    Finals wk2

    Victory at home im pretty sure

     

    Victory on Friday 13th March??

    according to the clubs website it's away

     

    according to membership site its home....

     

    yeah sorry i read it wrong, your correct, 

    its at home

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    So it goes,

     

    ACL home and away assuming that danielcarr is correct with the ACL home and aways

     

    Adelaide away

    ACL M1 - away

    Home Derby

    ACL M2 - Home

    Brisbane Away

    M. City Home (Wednesday night)

    Victory Away (Friday night) 1 day turn around wtf!

    ACL M3 - Home

    Newcaslte Home

    Brisbane Away (Wednesday night)

    Perth Away

    M.City Home

    ACL M4 - Away

    Mariners Away

    Adelaide Home'

    ACL M5 - Home

    Perth Home (ANZAC Day)

    Finals wk1

    ACL M6 - Away

    Finals wk2

    My predictions are based off the 2014 edition and turn out to be wrong soz, 

    the rules and regulations of the 2015 edition explain the schedule clearly

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    So it goes,

     

    ACL home and away assuming that danielcarr is correct with the ACL home and aways

     

    Adelaide away

    ACL M1 - away

    Home Derby

    ACL M2 - Home

    Brisbane Away

    M. City Home (Wednesday night)

    Victory Away (Friday night) 1 day turn around wtf!

    ACL M3 - Home

    Newcaslte Home

    Brisbane Away (Wednesday night)

    Perth Away

    M.City Home

    ACL M4 - Away

    Mariners Away

    Adelaide Home'

    ACL M5 - Home

    Perth Home (ANZAC Day)

    Finals wk1

    ACL M6 - Away

    Finals wk2

    My predictions are based off the 2014 edition and turn out to be wrong soz, 

    the rules and regulations of the 2015 edition explain the schedule clearly

     

    Either way the schedule is even more congested than last season because of the asian cup break, 2014 ACL and 2014 CWC.

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    Oh the irony if Popa is banned from our rematch with Guangzhou Evergrande.

    What a make rude.

    And Lippi's ban won't make a difference because he is now retired.

     

    He either has two choices Popa.

    Sit in the stand with a beer in one hand and a wanderdog in the other.

    Or we sign him for a one-game, guess-stint marquee capo for the RBB

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    Pretty much we seem screwed from late Feb onwards with all these catch-up games added too! As someone posted above, our congested fixtures list is gonna look like this 

     

    • 21 Feb - Adelaide (A)
    • 24 or 25 Feb - ACL Japan 3 (A)
    • 28 Feb - Sydney Derby (H)
    • 3 or 4 Mar - ACL Guangzhou Evergrande (H)
    • 8 Mar - Brisbane (A)
    • 11 Mar - City (H)
    • 13 Mar - Victory (H)
    • 17 or 18 Mar - ACL FC Seoul? (A)
    • 21 Mar - Newcastle (H)
    • 25 Mar - Brisbane (A)
    • 28 Mar - Perth (A)
    • 3 Apr - City (H)
    • 11 Apr - CCM (A)
    • 18 Apr - Adelaide (H)
    • 21 or 22 Apr - ACL Japan 3 (H)
    • 25 Apr - Perth (H)
    • 5 or 6 May - ACL Guangzhou (A)

    I feel sorry for our boys, I'm exhausted just looking at that fixture list particularly in March. There's gonna be very very short turn-arounds so I hope that they get some much-needed rest in January during the Asian Cup.

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    Pretty much we seem screwed from late Feb onwards with all these catch-up games added too! As someone posted above, our congested fixtures list is gonna look like this 

     

    • 21 Feb - Adelaide (A)
    • 24 or 25 Feb - ACL Japan 3 (A)
    • 28 Feb - Sydney Derby (H)
    • 3 or 4 Mar - ACL Guangzhou Evergrande (H)
    • 8 Mar - Brisbane (A)
    • 11 Mar - City (H)
    • 13 Mar - Victory (H)
    • 17 or 18 Mar - ACL FC Seoul? (A)
    • 21 Mar - Newcastle (H)
    • 25 Mar - Brisbane (A)
    • 28 Mar - Perth (A)
    • 3 Apr - City (H)
    • 11 Apr - CCM (A)
    • 18 Apr - Adelaide (H)
    • 21 or 22 Apr - ACL Japan 3 (H)
    • 25 Apr - Perth (H)
    • 5 or 6 May - ACL Guangzhou (A)

    I feel sorry for our boys, I'm exhausted just looking at that fixture list particularly in March. There's gonna be very very short turn-arounds so I hope that they get some much-needed rest in January during the Asian Cup.

    Better call up steve dank for some of them peptides

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    Pretty much we seem screwed from late Feb onwards with all these catch-up games added too! As someone posted above, our congested fixtures list is gonna look like this

     

    • 21 Feb - Adelaide (A)
    • 24 or 25 Feb - ACL Japan 3 (A)
    • 28 Feb - Sydney Derby (H)
    • 3 or 4 Mar - ACL Guangzhou Evergrande (H)
    • 8 Mar - Brisbane (A)
    • 11 Mar - City (H)
    • 13 Mar - Victory (H)
    • 17 or 18 Mar - ACL FC Seoul? (A)
    • 21 Mar - Newcastle (H)
    • 25 Mar - Brisbane (A)
    • 28 Mar - Perth (A)
    • 3 Apr - City (H)
    • 11 Apr - CCM (A)
    • 18 Apr - Adelaide (H)
    • 21 or 22 Apr - ACL Japan 3 (H)
    • 25 Apr - Perth (H)
    • 5 or 6 May - ACL Guangzhou (A)
    I feel sorry for our boys, I'm exhausted just looking at that fixture list particularly in March. There's gonna be very very short turn-arounds so I hope that they get some much-needed rest in January during the Asian Cup.

    group of death for the other teams more like it! we will **** their rude technology up and give them a lesson on how to win without using car accidents and laser lights. bring the rent a crowd also with their brandnew issued rude jersey's.

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    Oh the irony if Popa is banned from our rematch with Guangzhou Evergrande.

    What a make rude.

    And Lippi's ban won't make a difference because he is now retired.

     

    He either has two choices Popa.

    Sit in the stand with a beer in one hand and a wanderdog in the other.

    Or we sign him for a one-game, guess-stint marquee capo for the RBB

    3rd choice : sign up to the acl season and play in the game at centre back with topor he's technically not coaching as he is playing...c'mon popa get the boots on for the acl and help make a rude!

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    So it goes,

     

    ACL home and away assuming that danielcarr is correct with the ACL home and aways

     

    Adelaide away

    ACL M1 - away

    Home Derby

    ACL M2 - Home

    Brisbane Away

    M. City Home (Wednesday night)

    Victory Away (Friday night) 1 day turn around wtf!

    ACL M3 - Home

    Newcaslte Home

    Brisbane Away (Wednesday night)

    Perth Away

    M.City Home

    ACL M4 - Away

    Mariners Away

    Adelaide Home'

    ACL M5 - Home

    Perth Home (ANZAC Day)

    Finals wk1

    ACL M6 - Away

    Finals wk2

    **** ME DEAD

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    Monster group.

     

    I am surprised that anyone is surprised about the schedule we are facing from February onwards. It was always clear that we will play two games per week for most of the time for at least three months. Effectively Popa will have to build up two teams, one for the weekday matches, and one for the weekends.

     

    Bring on a couple of extra players (one of them an Asian) for the ACL, and maybe a guest and/or marquee player to deal with the work load.

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    Pretty much we seem screwed from late Feb onwards with all these catch-up games added too! As someone posted above, our congested fixtures list is gonna look like this 

     

    • 21 Feb - Adelaide (A)
    • 24 or 25 Feb - ACL Japan 3 (A)
    • 28 Feb - Sydney Derby (H)
    • 3 or 4 Mar - ACL Guangzhou Evergrande (H)
    • 8 Mar - Brisbane (A)
    • 11 Mar - City (H)
    • 13 Mar - Victory (H)
    • 17 or 18 Mar - ACL FC Seoul? (A)
    • 21 Mar - Newcastle (H)
    • 25 Mar - Brisbane (A)
    • 28 Mar - Perth (A)
    • 3 Apr - City (H)
    • 11 Apr - CCM (A)
    • 18 Apr - Adelaide (H)
    • 21 or 22 Apr - ACL Japan 3 (H)
    • 25 Apr - Perth (H)
    • 5 or 6 May - ACL Guangzhou (A)

    I feel sorry for our boys, I'm exhausted just looking at that fixture list particularly in March. There's gonna be very very short turn-arounds so I hope that they get some much-needed rest in January during the Asian Cup.

     

    thanks for summary

     

    its a ridiculous schedule, esp with long travel involved

     

    FFA needs to flex salary cap and WSW owners needs to buy us an international marquee of Shinji Ono standard plus an Aussie marquee

     

    only way we can be truly competitive to defend ACL title

     

    in some ways, not making HAL top six play offs might be a blessing given the above?

     

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    Tough choice between Japan or China for an away day... what are others thinking?

    Edited by danielcarr

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    Tough choice between Japan or China for an away day... what are others thinking?

    If I had the money I would go to Japan.

     

    I think going of wikipedia, Urawa Red Diamonds are based in the suburbs of Tokyo

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    Tough choice between Japan or China for an away day... what are others thinking?

     

    I really want to make Japan, been looking forward to it since deciding against it earlier this year. But Japan away match being in Feb is gonna be tough.

     

    As for China, really meh about it as I personally have no desire to visit Guangzhou. Crowded Chinese cities with mega pollution is a turn-off.

     

    Wouldn't have minded trading Japan for Korea either but with the 4th team in our group not confirmed as Korean team (could still be vietnam or thailand), I'm reluctant to book away trip to Korea either.

     

    Choices choices!  :nono:

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