Carns Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, hawks2767 said: A lot of people blessed with amazing talent have it offset with being a little different. Like Kanye West Difference being Kanye has proved he has the talent enough he can get away with being a ****wit. Bulut, not so much. sonar, ZachMercer, wendybr and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment
Xfactor Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 On 27/12/2018 at 10:44 AM, StringerBellend said: Keanu is one of the few players I’d be upset to see go I personally don’t see it yet with Keanu. Passing us average, gives away needless fouls constantly, always picks up a yellow, seems to get pulled all over the park running around like a headless chook. But he is young and with an experienced head next to him may develop into a good player. But for me don’t see it, yet Link to comment
Xfactor Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 For a part of Sydney that has produced so many quality Socceroos and players that carved out a great career in Europe am I the only one disappointed in what we have produced? If the best we can come up with coming through our juniors/set up is sotirio, keanu, Scott we may as well close the junior set up. It needs a complete overhaul. Can anyone name one player that has come through the juniors that you can sit back and go wow, this boy has got it? I can’t name one. They all have potential but potential to be good A-league level and that’s it. Link to comment
Neverbloom Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 1 hour ago, THEWANDERERSPOST said: I asked the guy, Michael Turner on Instagram, said they haven't approached Keanu yet. Apparently we attempted to sign Mitch Duke, but he opted to stay in Europe and Asia. Juric is a no as he is too expensive. Riera has interest but no offers. Brattan said he wasn't against a move to Wanderers and is a good possibility. i completely forgot about duke tbh Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 13 minutes ago, Xfactor said: For a part of Sydney that has produced so many quality Socceroos and players that carved out a great career in Europe am I the only one disappointed in what we have produced? If the best we can come up with coming through our juniors/set up is sotirio, keanu, Scott we may as well close the junior set up. It needs a complete overhaul. Can anyone name one player that has come through the juniors that you can sit back and go wow, this boy has got it? I can’t name one. They all have potential but potential to be good A-league level and that’s it. I still think aspro is the best of the juniors that we have brought through so far (until his leg fell off) The next batch however is where it’s at Grozos, Tokich and Roberts look good Keanu if he cuts the stupid fouls out is / will be a good player too Edinburgh 1 Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 1 hour ago, THEWANDERERSPOST said: I asked the guy, Michael Turner on Instagram, said they haven't approached Keanu yet. Apparently we attempted to sign Mitch Duke, but he opted to stay in Europe and Asia. Juric is a no as he is too expensive. Riera has interest but no offers. Brattan said he wasn't against a move to Wanderers and is a good possibility. Just what we need another winger who doesn’t score Link to comment
THEWANDERERSPOST Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 2 hours ago, StringerBellend said: Just what we need another winger who doesn’t score yeah i know. I was shocked when he said that tbh StringerBellend 1 Link to comment
Upthehill Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 4 hours ago, THEWANDERERSPOST said: I asked the guy, Michael Turner on Instagram, said they haven't approached Keanu yet. Apparently we attempted to sign Mitch Duke, but he opted to stay in Europe and Asia. Juric is a no as he is too expensive. Riera has interest but no offers. Brattan said he wasn't against a move to Wanderers and is a good possibility. Turner is a real estate agent from memory, he’s not a Wanderers employee. You’re in grain of salt territory there. Duke has a Japanese PR now I believe. He won’t be in an hurry. His wife also wants to stay there from what I’m told. No offers will come for Riera till Jan. We will see action in December, won’t get to ahead of ourselves Link to comment
hawks2767 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Xfactor said: For a part of Sydney that has produced so many quality Socceroos and players that carved out a great career in Europe am I the only one disappointed in what we have produced? If the best we can come up with coming through our juniors/set up is sotirio, keanu, Scott we may as well close the junior set up. It needs a complete overhaul. Can anyone name one player that has come through the juniors that you can sit back and go wow, this boy has got it? I can’t name one. They all have potential but potential to be good A-league level and that’s it. I don't think we can really judge until the Academy is in production line mode. Mariners have done well out of our backyard before 2012, but the next Jedinak and Ryan (and Bulut ) will come through our ranks. Link to comment
Paul01 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, StringerBellend said: 5 hours ago, Xfactor said: For a part of Sydney that has produced so many quality Socceroos and players that carved out a great career in Europe am I the only one disappointed in what we have produced? If the best we can come up with coming through our juniors/set up is sotirio, keanu, Scott we may as well close the junior set up. It needs a complete overhaul. Can anyone name one player that has come through the juniors that you can sit back and go wow, this boy has got it? I can’t name one. They all have potential but potential to be good A-league level and that’s it. I still think aspro is the best of the juniors that we have brought through so far (until his leg fell off) till the Heartle$$ NYL keeper Delianov kicked him so hard in the NYL grandfinal that his ACL got done. And Delianov is supposedly the best NYL keeper at u19 level in Australia. Edited December 29, 2018 by Paul01 Correction Link to comment
btron3000 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Just reading all the posts in here since mid December and it just highlights how the salary cap, in conjunction with the squad limits, is killing this league. Can’t bring in good players because we have no spots?!? Ridiculous. The system needs an overhaul. Not sure what can be done - I don’t think scrapping it would be good - but perhaps something like only including the top 20 in the cap, allowing larger squads, and not counting 1 or 2 cut players. Then the players still get their money but the clubs have much more flexibility. You can cut a guy, or you could keep him as part of the top 20, but still sit him because you have a larger squad. These are just intital ideas, but SOMETHING has to be done to encourage more quality into the league. Expansion won’t solve this, in fact it will make it worse as the same cast-offs will have two extra teams to go to. Gotta stop the merry-go-round and get better players into the league. sonar, wendybr, andypk and 1 other 4 Link to comment
sonar Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 7 hours ago, btron3000 said: Just reading all the posts in here since mid December and it just highlights how the salary cap, in conjunction with the squad limits, is killing this league. Can’t bring in good players because we have no spots?!? Ridiculous. The system needs an overhaul. Not sure what can be done - I don’t think scrapping it would be good - but perhaps something like only including the top 20 in the cap, allowing larger squads, and not counting 1 or 2 cut players. Then the players still get their money but the clubs have much more flexibility. You can cut a guy, or you could keep him as part of the top 20, but still sit him because you have a larger squad. These are just intital ideas, but SOMETHING has to be done to encourage more quality into the league. Expansion won’t solve this, in fact it will make it worse as the same cast-offs will have two extra teams to go to. Gotta stop the merry-go-round and get better players into the league. Increase squad size to 30 and instead of a salary cap have a mandatory minimun salary.. Each Junior (5) is guaranteed $75K.....all one year contracts.,,,,$375K pa Senior contract (25) is minimum of $125K....$3.125M pa Min total spend is $3.5M pa No need for marquees outside the cap...the club can then pay whatever they want over the minimum. Link to comment
GunnerWanderer Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 13 hours ago, Upthehill said: Turner is a real estate agent from memory, he’s not a Wanderers employee. Turner delivered the Klose story which wasn’t close to anything I don’t think he’s ever broken any news of note should stick to real estate Link to comment
Paul01 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, sonar said: Increase squad size to 30 and instead of a salary cap have a mandatory minimun salary.. Each Junior (5) is guaranteed $75K.....all one year contracts.,,,,$375K pa Senior contract (25) is minimum of $125K....$3.125M pa Min total spend is $3.5M pa No need for marquees outside the cap...the club can then pay whatever they want over the minimum. How about place a maximum allowance for rental not to be included in the salary cap as well as private health premiums as well as car allowance same as Europe. Also no back ended contracts for any player, visa or Australian. Make clubs have a visa defender, dm/cm and attacker first then others as they want so no one can stack the forward line with visa players. 5 (minimum) to 7 man bench with u21 players to be the 6th and 7th men. Link to comment
Upthehill Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, GunnerWanderer said: Turner delivered the Klose story which wasn’t close to anything I don’t think he’s ever broken any news of note should stick to real estate I like Turner, he’s a good bloke. But he’s a mere mortal like most of us when it comes to footballing info. There’s only one poster who’s word I would take as gospel on this forum. Taurus shares his info sparingly but I can count his misfires on 1 hand. Link to comment
Frankos187 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Yeboah back to the A-League apparently. Just not sure with who... Link to comment
mack Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 A winger who can't score? Just what we need. Neverbloom 1 Link to comment
Neverbloom Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, Frankos187 said: Yeboah back to the A-League apparently. Just not sure with who... he is signing with us because i a few pages back mentioned him, like bulut signed for us purely because i mentioned him at one of the forums .........my track record is worse than popa's Link to comment
Upthehill Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 31 minutes ago, Frankos187 said: Yeboah back to the A-League apparently. Just not sure with who... He’s a strong Babbel fit, just not a wanderers fit. Youngish, schooled in Germany, mouldable. Riera apparently has foreign interests so babbel may to to convert him since Yeboah already moonlights there. No for me. I’d say absolutely yes if Sotirio and Bridge left Paul01 1 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Upthehill said: He’s a strong Babbel fit, just not a wanderers fit. Youngish, schooled in Germany, mouldable. Riera apparently has foreign interests so babbel may to to convert him since Yeboah already moonlights there. No for me. I’d say absolutely yes if Sotirio and Bridge left Could yeboah head to the Smurfs? Link to comment
Neverbloom Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 honestly if we did get him i would say he is our best winger right now Link to comment
Upthehill Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Paul01 said: Could yeboah head to the Smurfs? Maybe, but they already have DDS and Trenty-B that can sit on the edges and drift in (from memory this was Yeboahs go-to). Does anyone know if he’s entitled to the cap dispensation with Roar? They’d want him back if he is. They’ve been dire going forward and need to punch Link to comment
blameturner Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 7 hours ago, Upthehill said: I like Turner, he’s a good bloke. But he’s a mere mortal like most of us when it comes to footballing info. There’s only one poster who’s word I would take as gospel on this forum. Taurus shares his info sparingly but I can count his misfires on 1 hand. I merely present the info I'm given. Klose was a joke at the time. Everyone is more than welcome to pass their own judgement. The comments above are accurate. Duke has no intention to return to Australia. But hey, you are right. Take it with a grain of salt if you want. Also, haven't been a real estate agent for a while. In the property game so GunnerWanderer is half right Link to comment
BoyFromTheWest Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 9 hours ago, GunnerWanderer said: Turner delivered the Klose story which wasn’t close to anything I don’t think he’s ever broken any news of note should stick to real estate Think you might find that the Klose story was the biggest and funniest hoax/joke we've had!! It even made the nightly news. Perhaps Turner sucked you in as well. Anyway, ATB (with Turner at the helm) is far more insightful than much of the opinion here. Paul01, blameturner, EmMac and 1 other 4 Link to comment
blameturner Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, BoyFromTheWest said: Think you might find that the Klose story was the biggest and funniest hoax/joke we've had!! It even made the nightly news. Perhaps Turner sucked you in as well. Anyway, ATB (with Turner at the helm) is far more insightful than much of the opinion here. Some context to that story, I was in media at the time. A reporter I was friends with asked for a rumour for the A-League signings, I texted back that Klose looked good for WSW. I was as surprised as most when I saw it run on Channel 7s sports broadcast that evening! I expected my friend to at least get double confirmation! 😂 Anyway, appreciate the kind words! And thank you for listening! mack, MajorMelons, StringerBellend and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
GunnerWanderer Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, BoyFromTheWest said: Think you might find that the Klose story was the biggest and funniest hoax/joke we've had!! It even made the nightly news. Perhaps Turner sucked you in as well. Anyway, ATB (with Turner at the helm) is far more insightful than much of the opinion here. Nah I called bs from day dot :-) Link to comment
mack Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Upthehill said: Maybe, but they already have DDS and Trenty-B that can sit on the edges and drift in (from memory this was Yeboahs go-to). Does anyone know if he’s entitled to the cap dispensation with Roar? They’d want him back if he is. They’ve been dire going forward and need to punch Cap exemptions outside the youth ones, end if the player leaves. Which is we aren't getting a cap exemption for Bridge. Link to comment
Paul01 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Upthehill said: Maybe, but they already have DDS and Trenty-B that can sit on the edges and drift in (from memory this was Yeboahs go-to). Does anyone know if he’s entitled to the cap dispensation with Roar? They’d want him back if he is. They’ve been dire going forward and need to punch If he was signed as an injury replacement, he would be on Buhagiar's pay. He would have to be an outright signing. Link to comment
blameturner Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, GunnerWanderer said: Nah I called bs from day dot :-) If it's any consolation, you were smarter than most my friend haha! Link to comment
GunnerWanderer Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, blameturner said: If it's any consolation, you were smarter than most my friend haha! First time for everything and fwiw it was a gold rumour you start another one about Reira to be replaced by Rooney or zlatan that’s bait the journos will gobble up Link to comment
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