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    By mack

    In Gosford tonight the Western Sydney Wanderers have been demolished 3-1 by the last placed Central Coast Mariners, and were lucky that a second half red card to Kye Rowles helped keep the scoreline remotely respectable.

    National Youth League goalkeeper Jack Greenwood made his A-League debut for the Wanderers due to a keeper injury crisis that saw Vedran Janjetovic, Danijel Nizic and Nick Suman all out of the squad. For the Mariners it was Adam Pearce taking the place of Ben Kennedy between the sticks. Giancarlo Gallifuoco's good substitute appearance in the Sydney Derby saw him elevated to the starting lineup for the visitors.

    Brendan Hamill helped setup the first goal for the Mariners. After giving away a foul deep on the flank, he then proceeded to pull down Matt Simon as he was making his attacking run, giving the Central Coast a free kick 19 yards out from goal dead centre. Matt Simon used his Captain's privileged to take the kick and a 10 meter long run up. With an inevitable power drive at goal coming up, the Wanderers wall jumped up split like the Grand Canyon giving Simon a gaping hole to fire through, perhaps taking a slight deflection to give Greenwood no chance. It was dreadful defending, anyone could see that Simon was never going to attempt a deft chip over the wall, they should have lined all 10 outfield players up shoulder to shoulder and stood their ground.

    Simon had a brace just after half-time through a questionable foul against Greenwood. With a soft cross played into the middle, Greenwood rose to punch away and made a mess, collecting Jordan Murry with a tap to the face. It was the type of 'foul' that referees in the A-League simply see as a hazard of playing football, but tonight for the first time the referee decided it needed to be punished with a penalty and a yellow card. No other referee will give a similar foul & penalty for another 5 years. It simply shows the complete lack of consistency that A-League referees have in their decision making process. Simon blasted the penalty to his right, Greenwood getting a slight touch but not enough to deflect the powerful shot wide.

    The Mariners were in dreamland as Kye Rowles scored the 3rd in the 55th minute. From a corner a basic cross to the near post saw Tarek Elrich misjudge the flight, letting Rowles have a free header. The Wanderers didn't have anyone on the far post and as usual, it costs the side a goal when it should have been easily cleared away.

    Mark Bridge came on for his 250th A-League match and made an immediate impact from the penalty spot. After scramble in the penalty area, Rashid Mahazi was bought down by Jacob Meling for a penalty to the Wanderers. Bridge powered his strike into the top corner past Pearce in goals. It was also at this point that Brendan Hamill suffered a concussion when he was poleaxed by Pearce just prior to the penalty award.

    Rowles put his side's command of the game in danger shortly after with his disgraceful 71st minute challenge. Coming in hard and fast with a two footed studs up lunge on Alexander Baumjohann. Rowles collected the Wanderers play-maker in a challenge that was up there as one of the worst in the history of the league, and Baumjohann was lucky to avoid having his ankle or leg broken by the disgusting challenge. Referee Adam Kersey completely missed the foul from a mere 4 meters away, waving play on and only after the intervention of the VAR did he eventually pull out a well deserved red card.

    The card helped the Wanderers regain control of the match but it did precious little to assist them in further damaging the deficit. Abraham Majok having the best chance deep into stoppage time but when a simple pass into the net was required he tried to blast the ball and skied it. Combined with early results the Wanderers have secured an 8th place finish in the A-League, one worse than under the Foxe/Gombau leadership. 

    The Wanderers play their final game of the season next week against Melbourne Victory at the Sydney Olympic Stadium, Homebush on Saturday the 27th of April at 7:50PM.

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    Harv
    8 hours ago, StringerBellend said:

    he was dreadful, did he even break into a jog?

    Baumjohann seems to be copping a lot of flack after what seems to me to have been a woeful team performance.  Appears that some of his critics expect him to track back, pick up the ball himself, create his own space, make the runs himself then either score himself or set up goals for others..  We were totally outplayed in midfield last night, so I ask, ":Where was BJH's support"  

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    mintoff
    40 minutes ago, 1988banana said:

    What a joke of a team , i hope babbel gets rid of them all 

    We might have to get rid of Babell too, because he is not doing that good eather.

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    scarcev

    we were never up for the game and we had some terrible performers as well.  Our debutant keeper couldn't do a great deal with the goals, the wall split (why the hell they were jumping at all when the ball is on the 18yd line is terrible coaching, noone can get it up and over and down again from that close, anything that went over their heads frrm that close was going into Brisbane waters, just stand there solid and brace yourself for the contact), the pen he conceded was an A League Ref special, you won't see that again anywhere.  Our poor backline wasn't helped by continually being under pressure from the worst midfield performance of the season.  It's easy to blame the defence of Hammill and Elrich and the performance of ABJ but when GG and Mahazi are both NPL2 standard at best and cannot hold on to the ball and give away possession and the opposition can just continue to foul ABJ as our only threat what did we expect was going to happen.  Riera was also back to his I don't care best on the few occasions we did create something and he was nowhere to be seen or not fighting hard enough.  I really did not see one player that was playing anywhere near their potential last night and with the lack of quality we have that is never going to get a result even against CCM. 

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    Hughesy
    1 hour ago, Harv said:

    Baumjohann seems to be copping a lot of flack after what seems to me to have been a woeful team performance.  Appears that some of his critics expect him to track back, pick up the ball himself, create his own space, make the runs himself then either score himself or set up goals for others..  We were totally outplayed in midfield last night, so I ask, ":Where was BJH's support"  

    The criticism is justified given his status as a marquee and the wage he’s being paid in relation to the rest of the squad. A player of his supposed caliber shouldn’t have to be relying so heavily on those around him, he pulls the strings - particularly as a number 10. My question in counter to yours would be: what support has he offered the rest of the team throughout the season? 

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    Smoggy
    2 minutes ago, hughsey said:

    The criticism is justified given his status as a marquee and the wage he’s being paid in relation to the rest of the squad. A player of his supposed caliber shouldn’t have to be relying so heavily on those around him, he pulls the strings - particularly as a number 10. My question in counter to yours would be: what support has he offered the rest of the team throughout the season? 

    And Riera?

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    Hughesy
    Just now, Smoggy said:

    And Riera?

    I’m relatively pleased with his effort overall this season, it’s definitely ten fold compared to ABJ anyway. There’s not too many strikers in the aleague who drop back and defend as much as he does. That’s something you definitely can’t fault him on

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    1988banana
    1 hour ago, mintoff said:

    We might have to get rid of Babell too, because he is not doing that good eather.

    Nah babbel is ok , u can't make anything from sh.it players , but next season is babbels last and only chance for me , now he'll be bringing in his own players , so no BS excuses 

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    WHACKO
    48 minutes ago, hughsey said:

    The criticism is justified given his status as a marquee and the wage he’s being paid in relation to the rest of the squad. A player of his supposed caliber shouldn’t have to be relying so heavily on those around him, he pulls the strings - particularly as a number 10. My question in counter to yours would be: what support has he offered the rest of the team throughout the season? 

    The criticism is justified, but he is not a marquee. (Riera is our only Marquee).

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    sonar
    48 minutes ago, hughsey said:

    I’m relatively pleased with his effort overall this season, it’s definitely ten fold compared to ABJ anyway. There’s not too many strikers in the aleague who drop back and defend as much as he does. That’s something you definitely can’t fault him on

    I am thinking he would of been a better defensive midfield option than striker ......an interesting stat would be how many goals.....penalties aside........ has he scored with his feet v his head.

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    dcrow
    35 minutes ago, WHACKO said:

    The criticism is justified, but he is not a marquee. (Riera is our only Marquee).

    Totally agree, at least Riera has scored in double figures, had a few assist and probably i can't count how many clearing headers from defending corners.

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    scarcev
    7 minutes ago, dcrow said:

    Totally agree, at least Riera has scored in double figures, had a few assist and probably i can't count how many clearing headers from defending corners.

    well 4 of those have been pens or pen rebounds so hardly impressive - he has been lapped by guys like LeFondre and Toivonen, I know he does his defensive work but really that is not what I judge strikers on.

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    dcrow
    28 minutes ago, scarcev said:

    well 4 of those have been pens or pen rebounds so hardly impressive - he has been lapped by guys like LeFondre and Toivonen, I know he does his defensive work but really that is not what I judge strikers on.

    Riera doesn't have a midfield like Victory and ESFC, that's the big difference.

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    StringerBellend
    3 hours ago, Harv said:

    Baumjohann seems to be copping a lot of flack after what seems to me to have been a woeful team performance.  Appears that some of his critics expect him to track back, pick up the ball himself, create his own space, make the runs himself then either score himself or set up goals for others..  We were totally outplayed in midfield last night, so I ask, ":Where was BJH's support"  

    I expect to him to put in some effort he didn’t look remotely arsed last night.

    He has skill but no application

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    StringerBellend
    2 hours ago, scarcev said:

    we were never up for the game and we had some terrible performers as well.  Our debutant keeper couldn't do a great deal with the goals, the wall split (why the hell they were jumping at all when the ball is on the 18yd line is terrible coaching, noone can get it up and over and down again from that close, anything that went over their heads frrm that close was going into Brisbane waters, just stand there solid and brace yourself for the contact), the pen he conceded was an A League Ref special, you won't see that again anywhere.  Our poor backline wasn't helped by continually being under pressure from the worst midfield performance of the season.  It's easy to blame the defence of Hammill and Elrich and the performance of ABJ but when GG and Mahazi are both NPL2 standard at best and cannot hold on to the ball and give away possession and the opposition can just continue to foul ABJ as our only threat what did we expect was going to happen.  Riera was also back to his I don't care best on the few occasions we did create something and he was nowhere to be seen or not fighting hard enough.  I really did not see one player that was playing anywhere near their potential last night and with the lack of quality we have that is never going to get a result even against CCM. 

    It’s easy to blame Hammil, and given he gave the stupid free kick away for their goal its total justified. His passing was woeful

    He’s dreadful, wouldn’t get a start in any other a league team 

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    StringerBellend
    4 hours ago, wendybr said:

    We seem to be hearing the same stuff from him as we heard at the very start...and watching the same shoulder shrugging and head scratching.

    I'll leave it at that....... but................sighhhhhh.

    What’s he supposed to do? 

    the squad is dreadful 

     

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    mack

    That penalty was ridiculous. If you go back and look at the replay, our defender headed the ball away first then two players who didn't get the ball collided.

    How that results in "penalty against the keeper and a yellow card" is beyond me, just another typically inept A-League referee. Compound that with the guy completely missing a foul that was worth two red cards and waving play on like nothing happened and he needs to be done for the season.

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    Smoggy
    1 hour ago, StringerBellend said:

    It’s easy to blame Hammil, and given he gave the stupid free kick away for their goal its total justified. His passing was woeful

    He’s dreadful, wouldn’t get a start in any other a league team 

    In a competitive squad that is involved in juggling ACL, the plate and finals football Hamill is ok. He is a work horse squaddie that you can send to the arse end of china or Korea to do a long flight job in the back line.

    What he isn't and never will be is a main team starter captain. 

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    Smoggy
    1 hour ago, StringerBellend said:

    What’s he supposed to do? 

    the squad is dreadful 

     

    Inded it is...and he knows it. But i did think he would squeeze a bit more out of the squad. Zeigler getting injured didnt help. Happy to give Babbel a full pre season and to build his squad, but i do have this nagging uncomfortable feeling he doesnt have a ******* clue. 

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    StringerBellend
    5 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

    In a competitive squad that is involved in juggling ACL, the plate and finals football Hamill is ok. He is a work horse squaddie that you can send to the arse end of china or Korea to do a long flight job in the back line.

    What he isn't and never will be is a main team starter captain. 

    he’s crap

    sure send him on a long flight somewhere long as he doesn’t have to play for us

     

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    scarcev
    11 minutes ago, Bones said:

    Was away camping so missed the match, just watching the replay on Fox now.

    I'm kinda excited to see Bridge's goal. His first for our club was a moment I'll always remember and I'm glad he's made 250 games. 

    Just up to Simon's first goal now, that wall was weak as piss.

    I hate camping, sleeping with the miso in the sealy posturepedic is an effort some days so dropping this bod down on an air mattress in a tent, picking ants out of me tucker and walking to a dirty communal shitter while the flies buzz around me in the day and the mozzies buzz around me at night, yep camping aint my thing.....AND YET.....I wish I had been there with you instead of venturing up to Gosford last night to watch that shite.

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    wendybr
    10 minutes ago, sonar said:

    Manage it.....?.......:P

    Oh! Yes.

    Thank you Sonar!

    I didn't want to sound too negative...but yeah....it's  easy to write off a team.

    But the manager is in the mix too. It's part of his job to inspire, motivate, establish discipline....and no doubt much much more.

    I'm  sure it's a very complex and multifaceted role.

    To me, there's something more to this woeful season than  having a team of no-hopers.

    Anyway....time will tell.

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    sonar
    12 minutes ago, wendybr said:

    But the manager is in the mix too. It's part of his job to inspire, motivate, establish discipline....and no doubt much much more.

    Truth be told I was being a tad mischeivous.......lol......... We've had terrible squads for the past 3 seasons.

    On the season over all I would give Babbel a 5/10 I don't think he is a bad manager but the results are poor. 

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    DamnedUnited
    16 hours ago, StringerBellend said:

    he was concussed he had no idea where he was 

    He had no idea where he was once he crossed the bridge at Brooklyn. He could have stood and acted like a defender come scarecrow. Unless both legs were broken I buy no excuse for Captain Courageous coming off. In any other contact sport no mas is heresy.

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    StringerBellend
    17 minutes ago, wendybr said:

    Oh! Yes.

    Thank you Sonar!

    I didn't want to sound too negative...but yeah....it's  easy to write off a team.

    But the manager is in the mix too. It's part of his job to inspire, motivate, establish discipline....and no doubt much much more.

    I'm  sure it's a very complex and multifaceted role.

    To me, there's something more to this woeful season than  having a team of no-hopers.

    Anyway....time will tell.

    Nope they are shite 

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    wendybr
    11 minutes ago, DamnedUnited said:

    He had no idea where he was once he crossed the bridge at Brooklyn. He could have stood and acted like a defender come scarecrow. Unless both legs were broken I buy no excuse for Captain Courageous coming off. In any other contact sport no mas is heresy.

    You're a hard man DU. :D

    First sentence made me laugh...but but...if he had concussion....There's no way he should  have been on that pitch.

    From the moment he incurred the injury.

    :)

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    wendybr
    26 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

    Nope they are shite 

    OK...I'm watching the Phoenix game..

    At the start of this season...man for man...would you have rated them as so much stronger than WSW?

    With an A League level rookie coach???

    I still don't know half their players (not that THAT counts for much, I know). A few have played together for years...its true. Krishna is fantastic...more than ever beore...but others who were considered has-beens 5 years ago are firing (like David Williams) Some,  like Durante, are getting long in the tooth.

    What's behind their performances and place on the ladder...so much better than us??

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