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    Josep Gombau's first home game as official Wanderers manager resulted in a dismal 2-0 loss to a clinical Brisbane Roar at a dreary, rain soaked Olympic stadium at Homebush tonight.
     
    After a day of pouring rain & storms and with their side unable to win in the last 6 game it was only the diehards who showed up in Homebush. They should have been rewarded with a goal from marquee Oriol Riera after just 5 minutes. Raul Llorente attacked down the left flank and crossed a wonderful ball to the 6 yard box at the near post. Riera met it strongly with a bullet header that flew well wide. 10 minutes later he blasted a 20 yard effort wide, and it was to be the last action for the striker and may have been the causal factor for his substitution not long after with a hamstring strain. The injury toll doubled in the 35th minute with winger Jaushua Sotirio limping off the field with another probable hamstring injury.

    The Wanderers attack was another in a long line of games of shuffling sideways & backwards with no penetration, and with their first shot on target Brisbane Roar punished the home side to take the lead. With the Wanderers unable to clear their lines, Eric Bautheac nodded the ball down to the advantage of Massimo Maccarone who swivelled and laced a left foot half-volley past Janjetovic.

    Ivan Franjic took advantage of static defending to score a goal with his first touch of the evening. The substitute defender cut back on his left foot & shot a curling strike back across goal, arcing over the outstretched hand of Janjetovic and dropping into the side netting. Defenders Llorente & Jack Clisby were caught cold, static & did little but watch him aim up on goal.

    Western Sydney were toothless in attack, sitting back with no urgency, passing sideways & backwards over and over again. The 56% to 44% possession advantage meant little when the home side only managed 3 shots on target and conceded two goals with the only two shots their opposition put on target. Josep Gombau has a lot of work to do to salvage the season, and with the 2nd Sydney Derby coming up the Wanderers could be inching close to a double digit number of games without a win and losing touch with the top 6.


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    So what motivated the RBB to diss the FFA tonight with the chant and the sign. I didn't see that coming.

    Was it just about all the **** that's going down atm regarding the FFA's governance structure and the possibility of a FIFA normalisation committee taking over to run the game until things are sorted?

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    5 hours ago, mack said:

    We're getting a practical lesson in the issue that the Brisbane Roar and the likes of Wellington suffer by putting small crowds into huge stadiums.

    And Sydney and Melbs City!

    Yeah, it really was an eye opener, the clubs need the help of the FFA to get appropriate sized venues sorted. It’s so clear. 

    I actually thought 8k was about right, I was thinking at least 7, that place is so vast it always seems like less. And that’s the problem. You know you’ve got a good sized stadium when it seems like more people are there, not less.

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    4 hours ago, hughsey said:

    They counted everyone twice if they reckon there was 8k in the stadium... whether it rained or not it would’ve been the same abysmal crowd.

    I don’t think the issue is WSW, it’s the A-League. There’s sticking by your team through thick and thin, then there’s sticking by your team through a monotonous, stagnating league bereft of any optimism, innovation and ambition where it feels like you play the same teams every couple of weeks...

    Playing in a stadium several times what is appropriate, in a precinct void of life or general fun just amplifies the current stage of play in the A-League. 

    Forget WSW, it’s a hard slog just being an A-League fan right now. The fact the FFA are oblivious to it makes things so much worse. SOS

    If that Syrian dude had put his free kick 10cm to the left and knocked us out then the only saving grace for the entire game at the moment would be the Matildas.

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    5 hours ago, mack said:

    We're getting a practical lesson in the issue that the Brisbane Roar and the likes of Wellington suffer by putting small crowds into huge stadiums.

    Our crowd tonight was listed at 8215, which is just under 10% of the total capacity, and that number was highly suspect, everyone around laughed when that came up.

    I looked up some of our first season games, our first ever home win, 2-1 vs Melbourne Heart in Round 5, it was actually a smaller crowd (8075), I looked at the video file and the difference in the atmosphere is massive. Sure that was a winning game, but everyone was closer to the pitch, the 'core' RBB was probably roughly the same size (the 3 central bays at Parra was 1100 seats) but looked a lot bigger because there were GA fans next to it, whereas at ANZ everyone is spread out and can take an entire row (or bay in some ares) to themselves.

    There was a smaller attendence at Parra season 1 against Brisbane in bad weather and around this time of year, it was the game before our first ever derby at Allianz when we held I up the postcodes.

    I think official attendence was something like 7k. Nowhere near that many, it was hardly over 5k that day, there was no ****er there. My old man was out from England and not impressed, bu the time he left in March he was mind.

    Was a good vibe building then though and everything was shiny and new. There are big issues with the way this club is being run that not even a new stadium can sort. The owners need to take a ******* long hard look at this shyte and get it sorted, not ******* good enough.

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    The government/A-League were clever flogging the club off when they did, but by not allowing a fan consortium to hold shares in the club it really has spoilt a chance they had of connecting fans. 

    I was optimistic with gombau and I know he was hampered by two injury subs, but he didn’t make a tactical substitution. When I was looking, seemed to always be seated- whilst aloisi was actively at the sideline. It was bizarre, the players seemed to rally for Fox - but don’t seem to care about Gumby. It’s frustrating, and the whole Olympic park thing is starting to suck.

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    warning - very negative post incoming.

    the issues with the ffa have been well documented but the club is not blameless here either.

    the move to olympic park has been an unmitigated failure. While its true that some of these issues are out of their control there is no way that the likelihood of issues like scheduling, security, being treated as about 9th or 10th priority by venue management etc wouldn't have been known prior to the decision being made so why do it? Why even offer the fans Olympic Park as an option knowing what the club would/should have known was going to happen. We still have 2 more seasons of this shite after this one. Full disclosure - I voted for spotless but definitely have buyer's remorse.

    On to the start of the season and a few days before we have the fan forum our CEO sends out a poorly worded and needlessly antagonistic email which riles up fans and turns the forum into a farce. Why? Again this is something that the club could have handled way better. The club at times seems annoyed and angry at its own fanbase.

    Popovic then leaves - right before the season not ideal obviously but instead of spending the money that milicic wanted so we could have kept a similar structure and pattern of play and made the transition easier we go for gombau whose system and philosophy is so vastly different that we will now have to go through a dismal season as he forces his ideas onto a group of players who are not equipped for it and judging by the attitude that has been on display in these last couple of games - look resistant and not committed to it. Again those of us who could see past gombau's soundbytes and knee slides could see this coming - how could the 'football' people at the club not see it? Not saying he isn't a good manager but we were setting ourselves up for a painful transition period that may or may not eventually see results at a time when we can't really afford to be patient and a big part of our fanbase won't be.

    By the time we slog through a couple more seasons of spotless and sitting waiting for gombau's vision to become reality we will be lucky to have the few thousand fans that showed up yesterday left.

     

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    I saw a bit of the end of the Newcastle vs Melb City game yesterday, and it was pretty dismal viewing. Crowd was 8k. Game being played in a dark, silent stadium. Adelaide got 7k on Friday night. Heading for another sub 10k round.

    The only clubs who look sure of getting 10k these days are MVFC and SFC (and that is only just). I liken this period of the league to the time when it was going to fold just before we came in (and Gold Coast/Clive Palmer were kicked out). Not just dark times for us. 

    I said before that recycling of average players and coaches is killing this league. Add in the VAR farce and FFA issues. Also whenever MVFC, WSW and Roar are doing well, crowds tend to be stable. All these clubs are struggling. SFC and MCFC (FFA pet clubs) doing well means no one cares. 

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    Isn't there one more season at spotless after this not 2 more?

    Stadium ready 2019 yes?

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    Echoing the general sentiment here and probably just venting to try and feel less depressed about the club and the A League in general......

    It is really concerning that, having rejuvenated the league by the good fortune of the Wanderers early success and community support, the FFA seems content to allow the current mess to try and kill the league off. The combination of a stagnant comp, VAR bull$@*#, mediocre performances from us, Victory etc, the ongoing nonsense with Victory active support, over-policing of Wanderers, poor pitches, inappropriate stadiums, sometimes hostile or indifferent media and woeful marketing has to be evidence of the FFA's inability to run the game, let alone grow it. Evidently they are more interested in their own little fiefdoms than the good of the game and need to go. 

    Not that the clubs are guilt-free. What I wouldn't give to have Lyall Gorman back.....

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    10 minutes ago, beatsurrender said:

    Isn't there one more season at spotless after this not 2 more?

    Stadium ready 2019 yes?

    Correct

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    I dont think we are spoon worthy as yet there are worse teams in the league but that Popovic discipline we had is seriously lacking.  Janjetovic kicking the ball out petulantly so he could complain about a decision was a joke, especially after being in poor position for both goals.  Riera walking off the way he did (who the **** you think you are, put that chance away and its a different game), Roly waltzing around like he didnt give a ****, Cejudo not giving a ****, dumb fouls, poor options all over the park but most worrying was the lack of heart.  Anyway like a lamb to the slaughter I will be back next week.

     

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    2 hours ago, lloydy136 said:

    warning - very negative post incoming.

    the issues with the ffa have been well documented but the club is not blameless here either.

    the move to olympic park has been an unmitigated failure. While its true that some of these issues are out of their control there is no way that the likelihood of issues like scheduling, security, being treated as about 9th or 10th priority by venue management etc wouldn't have been known prior to the decision being made so why do it? Why even offer the fans Olympic Park as an option knowing what the club would/should have known was going to happen. We still have 2 more seasons of this shite after this one. Full disclosure - I voted for spotless but definitely have buyer's remorse.

    On to the start of the season and a few days before we have the fan forum our CEO sends out a poorly worded and needlessly antagonistic email which riles up fans and turns the forum into a farce. Why? Again this is something that the club could have handled way better. The club at times seems annoyed and angry at its own fanbase.

    Popovic then leaves - right before the season not ideal obviously but instead of spending the money that milicic wanted so we could have kept a similar structure and pattern of play and made the transition easier we go for gombau whose system and philosophy is so vastly different that we will now have to go through a dismal season as he forces his ideas onto a group of players who are not equipped for it and judging by the attitude that has been on display in these last couple of games - look resistant and not committed to it. Again those of us who could see past gombau's soundbytes and knee slides could see this coming - how could the 'football' people at the club not see it? Not saying he isn't a good manager but we were setting ourselves up for a painful transition period that may or may not eventually see results at a time when we can't really afford to be patient and a big part of our fanbase won't be.

    By the time we slog through a couple more seasons of spotless and sitting waiting for gombau's vision to become reality we will be lucky to have the few thousand fans that showed up yesterday left.

     

    You missed under investing in squad last year, no real marquee dreadful foreign signings which compounded the sop issues with terrible on field performance 

    yeaterday felt like the last days of northern spirit 

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    16 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

    You missed under investing in squad last year, no real marquee dreadful foreign signings which compounded the sop issues with terrible on field performance 

    yeaterday felt like the last days of northern spirit 

    I agree with you on most of that but I didn't think Nico was a terrible signing. He would be doing no worse than some are this season. We also are missing Antonis. We were the only side to beat the smurfs.

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    19 minutes ago, sonar said:

    I agree with you on most of that but I didn't think Nico was a terrible signing. He would be doing no worse than some are this season. We also are missing Antonis. We were the only side to beat the smurfs.

    Nico was good, I don’t think he was terrible

    Borda

    the uraguyan guy who made so little impression that I can’t rember his name 

    Jumpei (who is still here to wow people with the odd step over)

    and unfortunately a poor year from Dimas 

    Antonsis saved the season, I’d love to have him back in jan 

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    3 hours ago, lloydy136 said:

    Why even offer the fans Olympic Park as an option knowing what the club would/should have known was going to happen.

     

    Why do  you think?  Dollars.  They could see the dollar signs from a packed ANZ for the Derby.  They were desperate for the two stadium option so they could cram everyone in there for this game.  Throw the club under a bus effectively as long as they get this.  I bet they'll still want the ANZ "experience" for the Derby once we're back at Parra.  2-3k more than capacity and well worth trashing the essence of the club, its fans and the experience.  Will be interesting to see if they can top the attendance from the last Derby.  Me personally I think it will drop again.  The magic of the Derby is not there at all at ANZ.  The venue is cancer and appeals only to Corporate types like Lederer who need to keep that fire going at home with $50 notes.

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    I feel our season really hinges on the derby. If we win we’re still in it and can most likely salvage something. We lose or draw and it’s all over, playing catch up for the rest of the year maybe scraping into 6th. I’m just really struggling to see where the goals are going to come from. 

    Our season starts next week.

     

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    I was pretty pleased that we got Gombau but the only concern I had was how slow Adelaide got going under him and it took them nearly 2/3 of the season for Adelaide to get things rolling. 2nd season under Gombau, Adelaide were probably one the best team in 14/15.

    For us... nearly a 3rd of the season is gone, we only got Gombau 1 month ago... Its going to take a very long time for us to get going to play the Gombau way.

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    3 minutes ago, SBW said:

    I was pretty pleased that we got Gombau but the only concern I had was how slow Adelaide got going under him and it took them nearly 2/3 of the season for Adelaide to get things rolling. 2nd season under Gombau, Adelaide were probably one the best team in 14/15.

    For us... nearly a 3rd of the season is gone, we only got Gombau 1 month ago... Its going to take a very long time for us to get going to play the Gombau way.

    Even longer considering there seems to be discontent in the squad. 

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    1 minute ago, matty said:

    Even longer considering there seems to be discontent in the squad. 

    I don't know the ins and out of the squad but what ever is going, its definitely showing on the field.

    Obviously something's gotta give

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    24 minutes ago, SBW said:

    I was pretty pleased that we got Gombau but the only concern I had was how slow Adelaide got going under him and it took them nearly 2/3 of the season for Adelaide to get things rolling. 2nd season under Gombau, Adelaide were probably one the best team in 14/15.

    For us... nearly a 3rd of the season is gone, we only got Gombau 1 month ago... Its going to take a very long time for us to get going to play the Gombau way.

    I feel we don't have the players to play Gombau's system.. For crying out loud, our starting wingers are Jumpei and Sotirio. 

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    6 minutes ago, wanderersfanatic said:

    I feel we don't have the players to play Gombau's system.. For crying out loud, our starting wingers are Jumpei and Sotirio. 

    Yeah. Something I've been thinking since the first game he took over. 

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    Bridge was going to start yesterday, but injured his back at training on Friday. Another 2 players suffered injuries yesterday during the 1st half hour. Funny how our opponents didn't have any similar issues.

    The only positive to come from yesterday was that Lustica's scan revealed no further damage to his calf.

    In other news, Herb is back in the country'

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