Carl Robinson Sacked

Good.

Whoever poached him from Newcastle needs to go too. 

We have a good enough squad 'on paper' to make the top 6. 

Never a dull moment supporting this club. It's like a telenovella at times. Sometimes the action is on the field... sometime off the field.  

1 hour ago, xposedPatricK said:

 

I just hope whoever takes the wheel bring out the best of the players and allow them to play to their strengths.

 

If you watched the city game from 3 weeks ago, then you can see what our players are capable of when they're playing actual attacking Football without the sideways, backwards passing and side to side Football.

When Carl was absent in the city game, our players took it to city and we scored 2 goals inside 10 minutes, of Carl was on the sidelines, do you think we would've come away with a draw let alone scoring 3 goals?

19 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

 

He's the owner, he pays the bills..would people prefer the bakaris, Charlesworth, Nathan Tinkler etc. Or do we want to be a CFG franchise? 

 

No, just someone who has a bloody idea what football is and how to run a football club.

And I hate to say this but look at how Travenchenko has ran Sydney FC with Danny Townsend as CEO, success both on and off the pitch, unlike JT, Danny Townsend has shown respect towards his own supporters

15 minutes ago, hughsey said:

 

Now we are stuck with his signings for the next 12-18 months 

And there is nothing wrong with that.

I'd argue that this is as good as a squad that we have put together in the entirety of our history.

Players like Antonis, Petratos, Troisi etc.... aren't mugs. They don't just become shite players overnight. (Unless of course they are coached by a muppet like Robinson).

I've really tried to like Robinson. I really have. My frustration has been born out of the lack of flexible tactics and game plans. The lack of fire in our bellies. It has been the same shite, week after week, for 2 seasons now. Getting beaten in one on one challenges continually. The lack of attacking play. Stringing 10 passes together that end up back in the hands of our goalkeeper, or hopelessly turned over to an opposition defender or midfelder. The lack of opportunities and chances for our strikers and attacking players. Selections and match substitutes. The list is endless.

We have a good squad, yet Robinson not only could not get the best out of them, but actually regressed their abilities. The same goes for our youngsters.

Last night was the lowest of the lows. Thank god for Ash Barty to lift my spirits.

Our season starts here.

1 hour ago, EmMac said:

Good move by the club but faaarrck, it's like groundhog day. 

Genuinely hope the club a) have a plan and b) seriously look at where the rot is coming from

 

Their plan was Robbo and the oy reason they'll have sacked him was because he finally hit the absolute nadir. I strongly doubt they'll have a plan. I wonder if they've even talked to Staj and would be suprised if they have. 

As for b, the people in charge are responsible for finding out, and given the answer is them, fat chance. The owners need to pull the trigger now, because they dont even have the decency to resign citing new challenges or personal reasons or whatever else they'd need to satisfy their egos. 

*******

This squad should be good enough. This is the a-league. You'll never have the perfect squad. We need someone who can work with odds and ends. 

I may be in the minority but I do not want Graham Arnold anywhere near my club. Never forget the crap and **** he threw it us whilst in charge of Sydney. Don’t care if it’s all “derby banter.” Plus his type of football is pretty uninspired. He also won’t have the benefit of our CDMs escaping booking for criminal tackles due to being the wrong Sydney club.

Throw money at Staj and promise there will be no surveys. 

I hope Stajcic gets the job. Has experience and is local. 

I'm very happy that Robinson has finally been found out.

Time for the fans to get behind the next coach and time for the players to act like professional footballers.

1 hour ago, StringerBellend said:

This is the only league where people obsess about he needs his own team. No manager gets his own team at the start.

That squad is more than good enough to get to the top 4 if the new manager can't achieve something with that group of players then he's the wrong dude 

Let's not spend another year of it's not his team excuses.. it's not football manager on the PC

 

 

Yes...exactly right. 

1 hour ago, StringerBellend said:

I get that the common denominator is Lederer and JT but given the players we have signed (everything CR asked for) what is it exactly that people thing Ledderer needs to do?

He's the owner, he pays the bills..would people prefer the bakaris, Charlesworth, Nathan Tinkler etc. Or do we want to be a CFG franchise? 

 

For a start I'd like them to acknowledge they don't know what they're doing when it comes to football and hire a technical director or suitable equivalent to oversee the football operations. If that is Gavin Costello he needs to go alongside JT.

They supposedly had an end of season review either last year or the one before and decided they didn't need to employ a TD. And their track record since Popa left proves how well that's working out.

Let the suits do the business side of things and hire someone with some local knowledge and actual football experience.

It would hopefully lead to some sort of continuity when managers come and go too.

Agreed.

Sheesh there's a fair amount of people blaming the players on social media.

I hope there is now a bit of freedom for ex-players to talk to some more. I'm hopeful that the current players will lift a bit too. But if they don't it will be more evidence the suits are to blame.

I find it rather bemusing that we have members of the club finding it hard to sheet any blame of our long term woes to the owners.

In English football we see time and time again bad owners being called out by members & fans and in some cases literally leading revolts against the way things are run, including setting up their own alternative 'peoples' clubs.

Yet here, with the Wanderers, it's like some folk can't bring themselves to look beyond the limits of game day losses or whatever cliches we get thrown at us from whatever clown is wearing the coach's hat this season.

Just ponder on these simple facts:

Before the new owners took over on 30th June 2014 we had:

• Won the Premiers Plate in our opening season
• Qualified for two A-League men's grand finals
• Qualified for the ACL & succeeded in reaching the quarter finals
• Had a membership of somewhere around 18500
• Average attendances at the end of 2013/14 season per home game:  15,171
• 1 coach for the men's team, 1 for the women's team.

Since they have taken over we have:

• Appeared in 1 A-League GF & 2 finals series
• Lost twice to NPL opposition & not reached the final of the FFA Cup
• Won the ACL (within 5 months of the new owners) & qualified for the CWC
• Average home game attendance drop to 10,695 (2019/20, the last season not affected by COVID issues)
• Membership total for 2019/20: 17,325
• Now up to our 7th Men's coach & 5 women's teams coaches

I can't be bothered doing the numbers on players we've churned and burned since 2014, nor the goal differentials. Yes, we have a heap of new pitches at Blacktown but are they being used on a regular basis by the members for their benefit? Oh, and remember how we were supposed to be the home of sokkah in western Sydney...funny how our owners couldn't foresee or forestall the entrance of the Campbelltown Cows.

And look around at the next home game. Where is the passion and energy we used to have, the WDWSF enthusiasm as the RBB called us to arms? Whatever happened to those ideas and hopes of members actually having a say on the club's direction?

We have ex-players coming out and literally cheering at the downfall of the club's staff, calling for more action. Don't get me started on the way team of the decade guys like Ono and Covic were treated.

Lederer and the other owners have turned us into a farce.

At the end of our first two seasons we stood on the precipice of greatness. Now we are in the shadow of footballing midgets.

6 minutes ago, marron said:

Sheesh there's a fair amount of people blaming the players on social media.

I hope there is now a bit of freedom for ex-players to talk to some more. I'm hopeful that the current players will lift a bit too. But if they don't it will be more evidence the suits are to blame.

Haven't seen that many on Twitter. Posts there are about Robbo, JT and above.

Some of our players are sub-par but they can't all be donkeys. We saw how good they can play without Robbo the other day against Melchester.

Yeah you have to dig down into the threads to find them but they are there.

I still don't think the supposed superstars are world a-league beaters but they're better than what Robbo has been doing to them. I HOPE that it will be enough to give them room to do what they promise, but I also am fairly convinced that our man JT and his offsider have managed to create an environment devoid of useful positivity, motivation and connection. It explains so much. We've seen it with other managers - players coming in full of promise and then just fading away. In retrospect, Robinson and his vacuous bullshit was probably the single worst person to have in a situation like that.

Just now, marron said:

Yeah you have to dig down into the threads to find them but they are there.

I still don't think the supposed superstars are world a-league beaters but they're better than what Robbo has been doing to them. I HOPE that it will be enough to give them room to do what they promise, but I also am fairly convinced that our man JT and his offsider have managed to create an environment devoid of useful positivity, motivation and connection. It explains so much. We've seen it with other managers - players coming in full of promise and then just fading away. In retrospect, Robinson and his vacuous bullshit was probably the single worst person to have in a situation like that.

You also have to ask why is it that this squad has been built on a combination of ex-Newcastle players, tired retreads who we didn't sign years ago, and youth who have at best an inconsistent track record.

Robbo was encouraged or allowed to bring with him guys who to be honest were playing at a bottom tier A-League club. We got Troisi on what...the third go, after he has been at almost as many clubs as Jacob Pepper. Ibini has been a basket case & we've had young fellas like Mo Adam decide that no, they'd rather go to uni and then play somewhere else.

Robinson was the agent of his own downfall, but he was put into that position by higher ups who deserve our unrelenting bollocking.

On the brightside I haven't seen so much posting on here for ages and it's even about footy 

4 minutes ago, ManfredSchaefer said:

You also have to ask why is it that this squad has been built on a combination of ex-Newcastle players, tired retreads who we didn't sign years ago, and youth who have at best an inconsistent track record. 

Is that not what our Season One squad was?  

9 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

On the brightside I haven't seen so much posting on here for ages and it's even about footy 

I took a holiday at the wrong time clearly 

I didn’t watch any of the matches this weekend

The youth is the answer. 
 

Tired of the never ending conveyer belt of a-league journeymen, washed up foreign players and ex-socceroos looking for their last pay check. 

A young no name manager to lead them.

Just now, Unlimited said:

I took a holiday at the wrong time clearly 

I didn’t watch any of the matches this weekend

Only reason to watch the men's is if you're a masochist.

14 minutes ago, 102megan said:

Is that not what our Season One squad was?  

No.

Those Newcastle players that were signed in our first season were not, unlike Robbo's merry band, brought in from Popovic's previous club. Popovic signed the likes of NTS without having any previous immediate engagement with the club or the player. Robbo effectively used WSW as a means to draft a corps of his favoured Newy players which is diametrically opposed to what popa did.

Ax for tired retreads who we didn't sign, well the obvious example there is Troisi. How many times was he supposed to be a done deal? The club was after him for ages and it took until he has been through 3 A-League clubs & a couple of o/s clubs before we got him. In the lead up to our first season we couldn't chase down someone of that ilk in that kind of circumstance because it was an entirely different situation.

And how many youth players actually got a run under Popa in season one? I seem to recall Alessi, Sotirio & Fofanah. And all these players were from outside the club, unlike today's iteration whic has had a Y-League and NPL youth team running around for several years.

Chalk and cheese

(Edit: Emoji added coz I can't be grumpy when I respond to you)

8 minutes ago, Carns said:

Only reason to watch the men's is if you're a masochist.

Now there's an idea for the club marketing gurus...

"Are you submissive? Do you know the difference between D/S and a CM. Do you like a striker who really punishes the opposition?"

"Well Western Sydney Wanderers are the club for you! Come on down to the biggest Hellfire Club west of Strathfield and let our squad and coach make you writhe in delicious agony."

"Wanderers...the biggest club for the best beatings"

21 minutes ago, Carns said:

Only reason to watch the men's is if you're a masochist.

I’ve started using the games this season to go on a steak and chicken food tour of Parramatta

At least if we lose it’s on a happy heart with a satisfied stomach 

I'm expecting more of this from ex players and staff 😅

https://twitter.com/JamesDoddFOX/status/1487654239547846660?t=CGNYq1wZtFYfKBy_olgKgw&s=19

James Dodd thinks we have a good chance to get Ufuk Talay

1 hour ago, 102megan said:

Is that not what our Season One squad was?  

Exactly the manager needs to get the best out of players that team was greater than the sum of its parts 

1 hour ago, marron said:

Their plan was Robbo and the oy reason they'll have sacked him was because he finally hit the absolute nadir. I strongly doubt they'll have a plan. I wonder if they've even talked to Staj and would be suprised if they have. 

As for b, the people in charge are responsible for finding out, and given the answer is them, fat chance. The owners need to pull the trigger now, because they dont even have the decency to resign citing new challenges or personal reasons or whatever else they'd need to satisfy their egos. 

 

*******

This squad should be good enough. This is the a-league. You'll never have the perfect squad. We need someone who can work with odds and ends. 

I suspect the appointment of GVE the other week was with this in mind we are least have someone who can run the team for a few weeks or even longer while they sort something out

I'm praying they have already hit Staj up 

1 hour ago, Natethan said:

I may be in the minority but I do not want Graham Arnold anywhere near my club. Never forget the crap and **** he threw it us whilst in charge of Sydney. Don’t care if it’s all “derby banter.” Plus his type of football is pretty uninspired. He also won’t have the benefit of our CDMs escaping booking for criminal tackles due to being the wrong Sydney club.

Throw money at Staj and promise there will be no surveys. 

 

If that happened we'd be getting even more like Everton Arnold could be our Rafa 

1 hour ago, Carns said:

For a start I'd like them to acknowledge they don't know what they're doing when it comes to football and hire a technical director or suitable equivalent to oversee the football operations. If that is Gavin Costello he needs to go alongside JT.

They supposedly had an end of season review either last year or the one before and decided they didn't need to employ a TD. And their track record since Popa left proves how well that's working out.

Let the suits do the business side of things and hire someone with some local knowledge and actual football experience.

It would hopefully lead to some sort of continuity when managers come and go too.

This is very true, they need to employ the right people, what's Laurie McKinna up to these days?