SFC Steal Derby Win

[MathyouWSW]

Apparently, there was a second angle of the incident involving Yeni and Retre:

However, ref made his decision without seeing it.

[mack]

You can see it even more clearly on P+ replay that there's no "slap". It starts when Retre runs into Yeni & grabs his arm, lifts it, then acts like he's been shot when their arms detangle. FFA should withdraw the RC, suspend Retre for diving & apologise to the Wanderers (two times, after they missed the straight red on Wilkinson).

[EmMac]

4 hours ago, mack said:

You can see it even more clearly on P+ replay that there's no "slap". It starts when Retre runs into Yeni & grabs his arm, lifts it, then acts like he's been shot when their arms detangle. FFA should withdraw the RC, suspend Retre for diving & apologise to the Wanderers (two times, after they missed the straight red on Wilkinson).

SFC are Donald Trump level teflon coated. What a faaarking joke. 

[Hughesy]

5 hours ago, MathyouWSW said:

Apparently, there was a second angle of the incident involving Yeni and Retre:

However, ref made his decision without seeing it.

Wow… I thought he was ******* horrendous but that’s just plain dodgy 

[Legionista]

I reckon the ref didn’t see that angle. They only showed that angle when we ref was running to show the red.

[Zelinsky]

**** game. Both teams played crap ball. One of the most uninspiring derbies I've seen to date.

I am seriously concerned about the fitness level and overall health of Smurf players. They need to rest a lot during the game.

The Oscar for outstanding acting goes to Retre. The Oscar for best supporting actor goes to the ref.

How did Wilko get away with sticking the studs into Borello?

Can't complain about a Smurf win. They scored, we didn't. We need(ed) a CF, our crosses go nowhere.

Still, we should have equalized before the break, Borello's volley was a bit tricky, but Bozanic had to put that header away.

Rudan had a few choice words for Corica post-game who kept answering back "**** off". Old mates, ey?

 

 

 

[Smoggy]

10 minutes ago, hughsey said:

Wow… I thought he was ******* horrendous but that’s just plain dodgy 

Red card should be overturned….but it won’t be…..

[StringerBellend]

9 hours ago, SBW said:

There's a lot I want to say about this game so firstly I'll start with the starting 11 Rudan has put out.

Rudan starting Carluccio ahead of Aiden Simmons IMO was surprising. Not saying that Carluccio is a bad player but he couldn't get himself into the game. He did not have an impact and I thought that maybe he deserves to start from the bench. Simmons has done very well in his last 2 appearances and deserved to start tonight.

Secondly, that red card to Yeni I believe should have not been a red card, if anything it was more of a reaction slap which unfortunately hit Retre's face a Retre made the most out of that and did very well to milk it to send Yeni off. 

Smurfs were getting away with niggly tactics and it wasn't until late into the game the ref decided to foul the smurfs and give them yellow cards.

 

They are the Kopites of the A League

Tuesday morning will be.same the media darlings always get away with it 

[BoyFromTheWest]

I thought SFC got away with a great deal tonight - another team would have had several yellows. They were allowed to interfere with play and the ref ignored it - especially Burgess (someone needs to just flatten him early in the game - and hard). Ref let a couple of ours go but far less. The red was a shocking decision.

We were the only team really playing after 20 minutes and did dominate. They had 9-10 behind the ball all game and that is always hard to get through, especially with 10 men. Yes we miss the striker that can get his body into place and make the shot without having to trap, control... But they have it everything for the whole game and more so in the second half.

One of those nights and we had players coming back, needing time... Very disappointed but more so about how uneven the officiating. The ref was sky blue tonight, not sure about Sydney.

[Smoggy]

1 minute ago, StringerBellend said:

They are the Kopites of the A League

Tuesday morning will be.same the media darlings always get away with it 

Smallest ESFC away attendance I have seen I think, especially compared to the numbers we travel east with.

[GunnerWanderer]

I think everyone complaining about the red should maybe direct their displeasure to Yeni for putting himself in the situation. 
 

it’s easy to sit here and blame the ref we should be more worried that they are pretty **** and we barely can muster up a shot on target. 
 

the better chances of the match went to them it’s not inconceivable to be sitting here talking of a 3 nil loss if Wood’s shot is a metre inside the post and Mrcela doesn’t have that sliding challenge. 
 

[marron]

We didn't deserve to win.

I like what's happening in build up more than the last few years but final balls/attempts at goal are as **** as they've ever been.

Not that they offered much but we did okay without the big M. That's good. 

Disappointed with the intensity particularly early. They were up for it way more than us. Given we can't score that's criminal. They just needed the one and then to sit back. Who wouldn't? We can't score.

I won't begrudge them for their tactics and time wasting. Seeing us do that to them at their place would warm my heart. But if we did it like they did we'd come out of it with yellows galore. It's to be expected that top teams get some partial treatment from refs, it happens the world over. Why is it that this shitty outfit continually get the rub of the green? Having a ref not consult all the angles on a VAR decided red card is gross incompetence or sheer favouritism or both. No yellows all game for their challenges and then a couple for the stats at the end ensuring no impact on the game and that things look right "on balance"  is absolutely pathetic. When Beadling scored, from real time I knew it was going to be ruled out. If it wasn't the offside it would have been a handball given by one look at it from the ref. If it wasn't that he would have been found to have fouled the defender.

 

As I said in the match thread though whenever it happens it just makes me more glad I'm not one of them. Nepo-babies of the A-league from the top down to the Cove.

Game sounded great. I know that that double tier tifo has been a long time coming, great stuff. Just a shame that our own repeated issues, a bit of a deflection,  and  refs determined to let them do whatever the **** they want interfered.

[marron]

14 minutes ago, GunnerWanderer said:

I think everyone complaining about the red should maybe direct their displeasure to Yeni for putting himself in the situation. 
 

it’s easy to sit here and blame the ref we should be more worried that they are pretty **** and we barely can muster up a shot on target. 
 

the better chances of the match went to them it’s not inconceivable to be sitting here talking of a 3 nil loss if Wood’s shot is a metre inside the post and Mrcela doesn’t have that sliding challenge. 
 

Agreed but we were building (slowly). And angles show there was nothing in it anyway - but the ref never looked at them. Yeni's mistake is almost assuming the refs might actually look at what happened given its a game impacting event.

[MartinTyler]

10 hours ago, wsw1234 said:

I have come to realise we are a low to mid table team at best who had success early on in life.

 

If that's the case, who apart from the 3 above us are better than us?

[Zelinsky]

1 hour ago, GunnerWanderer said:

I think everyone complaining about the red should maybe direct their displeasure to Yeni for putting himself in the situation. 

As I see it: Yeni steps forwards, Retre puts his body into him with a forward movement, and then Yeni pushes him away. There was nothing to it - and then comes the dying swan. Pathetic.

That’s a very different situation to Wilko putting the studs into an opponent on the attack. Where was the VAR? The ref set the tone here, and the Smurfs knew then and then that they would get away with ankle kicking all the way. 

It’s this kind of crap why I stopped going to derbies in the East. In Babbel’s first derby at SCG the Smurf’s had an offside goal allowed, our goal was disallowed, and Babbel was then red carded. Would never have happened to Arnie. That did it for me. It appears that this flavour of refereeing derbies has now reached Parra as well. 

Saying all of that: we should have equalised, the chances were there, and the Smurfs could have easily given us another two. 

[StringerBellend]

33 minutes ago, Zelinsky said:

As I see it: Yeni steps forwards, Retre puts his body into him with a forward movement, and then Yeni pushes him away. There was nothing to it - and then comes the dying swan. Pathetic.

That’s a very different situation to Wilko putting the studs into an opponent on the attack. Where was the VAR? The ref set the tone here, and the Smurfs knew then and then that they would get away with ankle kicking all the way. 

It’s this kind of crap why I stopped going to derbies in the East. In Babbel’s first derby at SCG the Smurf’s had an offside goal allowed, our goal was disallowed, and Babbel was then red carded. Would never have happened to Arnie. That did it for me. It appears that this flavour of refereeing derbies has now reached Parra as well. 

Saying all of that: we should have equalised, the chances were there, and the Smurfs could have easily given us another two. 

It's what it is they are the Kopites

No point getting upset on that..I'm more pissed off how anemic our attack looked and the talent we had on the bench..ffs Rudan seriously were did you think the goal was going to come from? 

[MartinTyler]

I know this might be going against the grain but I reckon we've looked quite decent in the past 3 games and ready for a good finals push. However, we severely lack that cutting edge in the final 3rd and will be very much dependent on a fit Yengi and the new striker hitting the ground running. Outside of that we now have strength in depth across most positions. Somehow I feel a finals clash against FC coming on.

[wsw1234]

1 hour ago, MartinTyler said:

If that's the case, who apart from the 3 above us are better than us?

I’m talking overall, from a club perspective that killer edge has been long gone, yes there has been issues throughout the years, but we always seem to get in a good position then just roll down the table.

[MartinTyler]

4 minutes ago, wsw1234 said:

I’m talking overall, from a club perspective that killer edge has been long gone, yes there has been issues throughout the years, but we always seem to get in a good position then just roll down the table.

You could level inconsistency about any of the clubs although City have now reached a very good level. If anything we had too much success too soon and expectations have been high but we've never consolidated.

[GE942150]

8 hours ago, mack said:

You can see it even more clearly on P+ replay that there's no "slap". It starts when Retre runs into Yeni & grabs his arm, lifts it, then acts like he's been shot when their arms detangle. FFA should withdraw the RC, suspend Retre for diving & apologise to the Wanderers (two times, after they missed the straight red on Wilkinson).

Can we challenge the red card decision like the NRL does with the players judiciary?

[BoyFromTheWest]

I think this group is the hardest working and most solid we've had for many a season. We went from newbie-nobodies to superstars overnight, always  a side that no-one really took seriously. We flew under the radar that first couple of seasons and through ACL. Everyone was waiting for the bubble to burst - just that it took longer than expected. The constant churning of players after those first couple of seasons was only helped by a few key legends that hung around until...

From Popa's last year/yr1 SOP it's been a downhill ride. I reluctantly give credit to Rudan and whoever else is working behind the scenes to rebuild things. No simple fixes like the past but a slow rebuild of culture and capacity.  We are fitter and more resilient than for many seasons, competitive with any team and overall playing better than for many years.

We aren't the finished product - that wasn't promised. A striker is key - probably the most difficult person to fill in A League (probably anywhere). That the boys run their guys out whilst opposing teams lie down buggered and wasting time is an important sign.

Last night was disappointing and unfortunately showed up the weaknesses in Oz football - officiating inconsistency (and incompetence!) and lazy tactics. Since Ange's teams, few play skillful football. Most teams in A League rely on crowding the penalty area, making it hard for most other teams to break down (except City whose attack is above the rest when on song) and then very fast break - belt it up field and run.

United won last year on the back of this - very hard to break down and try to luck a goal on counter. Roar are an ordinary team who are hard to break down - to many bodies in the box and get lots of draws. SFC have always fouled, kicked, pushed... to slow the opposition attack and get everyone back. They are never pulled up until they get to Asia then the tactics are exposed.

The best teams will be those who learn how to break down this crappy, lazy defending and expose A League weaknesses and start lifting the game to a better level.

To be fair I think Rudan is trying to do this. A way to go but we are far better than the last few years!!

[sonar]

2 minutes ago, BoyFromTheWest said:

 A way to go but we are far better than the last few years!!

Yep. Have to agree with this. We are a better side in some aspects but are lacking where it matters..... a goal scoring forward. IF we can fix that then we will challenge for a championship.....which at the end of the day is what every team is chasing.

I do give credit to Rudan for his recruiting as on the whole it has been spot on. Three out of his original visa player signings have been ok or better.

(Traore was signed before Rudan was manager )

Marcelo.....big tick.

Amalfitano........tick

Krpic.....Fail

Yeni Ngbakoto......tick

 

 

 

[Unlimited]

Didn't we just sign the Layouni guy - 69 on FIFA by the way - to be the striker?

I feel some people here are a bit impatient

[WSWJACK]

Cant lip read, what exactly was said between Weasel and Rudes at the end I wonder, (should be in the fill in the caption section?)

Good debut Mr Beadling 

[GE942150]

15 minutes ago, Unlimited said:

Didn't we just sign the Layouni guy - 69 on FIFA by the way - to be the striker?

I feel some people here are a bit impatient

He arrives this weekend. Was supposed to arrive earlier but his partner had a baby. 

[sonar]

32 minutes ago, Unlimited said:

Didn't we just sign the Layouni guy - 69 on FIFA by the way - to be the striker?

I feel some people here are a bit impatient

To be fair it's only five years worth of built up impatience. I'll try and chill out for another five till we get it sorted.

Edited February 12, 2023 by sonar

[Cynth]

So I am not capable of analysis of a football game but I have a few word to say, lol.

I thought the ref not picking up on those obvious yellows earlier in the game were key. If he had, the Smurfs would have had to adjust their play early but they continued till Yeni ended up in a situation where he was sent off.

Having said that, my son who is a referee, last night said immediately last night front the angle he saw that it was violent conduct, straight red. To his credit, this morning he took a look at the other angle and changed his view. He said there wasn’t enough to give a red and he was baffled that the refs in the VAR box didn’t provide both angles to look at the incident when it was clearly so important. Even the commentator was saying the depth angle was deceiving. Incompetence at best. Bias at worst. 
 

Anyway, I’m up for a little more optimism…..even if I have to put up with my two Smurf brothers gloating for a few weeks. 
 

Edited February 12, 2023 by Cynth

[Smoggy]

Oh..absolutely we are better than previous seasons, but the bar was spectacularly low let’s be honest. Under Carlo we looked terrified of making a forward pass and had anxiety issues every time we crossed the half way line. The Carlo side is the worst football side I have supported in 40 years, and I have seen some shockers. Under Babbel, well, I think what he was trying to do was kinda right…but the parts were never there to make it work in this comp and we ended up with game plans out the windows within the first 20 mins. Cue lots of tv shots of Babbel on the touch line with a look of somewhere between anger and total confusion.

So Marco didn’t have much to follow really to improve us. We are just about there as a competitive finals side that sits around 4th to 6th. Need that striker and another season or two and perhaps then we can build towards the top two, stability is what we need and I know some dislike Marco but we prob need him to hang around for another few seasons to see if he can keep on pushing this club forward.

[THEWANDERERSPOST]

2 hours ago, GE942150 said:

He arrives this weekend. Was supposed to arrive earlier but his partner had a baby. 

Already here, he was at the game yesterday, saw him clapping the fans post match.

[GE942150]

1 minute ago, THEWANDERERSPOST said:

Already here, he was at the game yesterday, saw him clapping the fans post match.

That's good. Definitely could have used him last night. Any idea why Yengi didn't play?