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I caught something on twitter the other day about a tweet by one of the head honchos at Fox Sports claiming the Speedie/Slater commentary on the Melbourne derby was 'World Class'. If true there some 'kin deluded people out there !!

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44 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

Something just then on ABC news breakfast about the AFL game in China

Its like those mofos discovered china 

It's like they still believe that someone will eventually take up that horrid game :woah:

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20 hours ago, mack said:

Lol it's amazing the difference from Bozza & Slater talking about WSW and CCM in this A-League hour show.

WSW & Gombau are getting crucified, Bozza saying that Gombau will get sacked, meanwhile CCM are "playing okay" and "creating chances" even though they have lost 3 games in a row, haven't scored, without Izzo having a blinder they would've lost 5-0 against Adelaide and one of those losses was against Gombau's Wanderers. :rofl: and Wellington, it's a positive they are "fighting for the fans" having only won a single game.

Izzo plays for Adelaide.

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Not sure if this has been posted already.

Michael Lynch of the SMH is talking some common sense, especially in his last half a dozen paragraphs:

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/how-to-make-attending-aleague-games-special-again-20171229-h0bb4n.html

 

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I’ve seen several articles in the last couple of days about problems with/improvements that need to be made with the A-League. Hopefully now it’s properly being publicised we might see some action

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19 hours ago, bombagol said:

Not sure if this has been posted already.

Michael Lynch of the SMH is talking some common sense, especially in his last half a dozen paragraphs:

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/how-to-make-attending-aleague-games-special-again-20171229-h0bb4n.html

 

You could piece that article together with various posts from here.

One thing I disagreed with though:

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The move over the past few years to sanitise the match-day experience has not worked. 

I think it's worked very effectively. 

 

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By Philip Micallef 

Australian football is running the risk of destroying itself once and for all if each member of its family fails to accept that we have a huge crisis on our hands and start a salvage operation to save what's left of our game.

There are no two ways about it. Our game has become a basket case and we are doing bugger all to fix it.

And as the custodians of the sport Football Federation Australia must take most of the blame for the precarious state of our game that looked so promising four or five years ago.

If the game succumbs to the multiple fiascos that have distanced it from the people who matter most - the fans - there will be no one else to blame but FFA who have shown that they are incapable of running Australian sport's sleeping giant.

The football family at large has no confidence left in the game's governing body.

Too many non-football people are making decisions that show their lack of knowledge.......... 

 https://theworldgame.sbs.com.a...

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An article from Sebastian Hassett about the recycling and merry go round of A-league players. Vidosic with his 5th A-league club. Then there are other guys like Nichols, Reddy, Burns etc. It does detract a bit from the league as it is just a bunch of players switching clubs once something doesn't go right for them at whatever place they happen to stumble into.

Don't know what can be done about it though.

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/blog/2017/12/30/why-leagues-transfer-carousel-cant-go

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Just adding transfer fees alone won't really solve anything because the value of a player is derived from their form (or potential for younger players), their contract value, the length of their contract and supply/demand for the type of player they are.

Adding an open transfer market won't necessarily push the clubs to start handing out 3+ year contracts, because the underlying reason they don't give long contracts is still far more important to clubs who literally lose millions of dollars a year. That reason is A-League players are not highly valuable in the first place.

"First 11" quality players are also generally unwilling to accept long deals because it reduces their potential for pay increases or extending their careers, which often comes by moving clubs on free transfers.

At least half the league is made up of players on minimum wage contracts who are either youth prospects who haven't proved their ability or attitude to perform in the A-League or experienced players who flirt around from club to club filling gaps because the managers all know what they will get from them.

Using Vidosic as an example. Say the Nix gave Vidiosic a 3 year $200k contract. And 6 months in his father has a blow up with the coach and gets fired, and then Dario wants to leave because they treated his father poorly.

What's he done recently in terms of form? Nothing.

Are there alternatives in the market? Sure. If you have a foreign spot left you have the entire world to look at.

If you're looking mostly toward next season's squad you can find free agents that will cost nothing to sign.

He is such a good player your team can't function unless you get him? No.

Even if he is a good player, is City willing to look toward next season thereby being able to find new players in the free agent market? If the cost is too much, then yes of course.

Is Wellington on the hook for the remaining $500,000 of his contact if they don't let him go? Yes.

So tell me what Dario Vidosic's value is in an open market?

Nil.

Wellington also arguably gain a benefit from his release. They have "earned" back $500,000 over their future expenditure by letting him go for free.

This is the main issue I have with that article, and the ongoing commentary from Bosnich around this issue of "oh this player isn't happy at his club there should be transfer fees so he can join a new club with his old club getting something in return". In these particular situations (ie, unhappy player), there is no value. Dave Carney was effectively unusable by Newcastle when Sydney FC wanted to sign him, so he was released to join Sydney FC. Newcastle wouldn't have got a transfer fee from SFC because he wasn't worth anything any longer.

 

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12 minutes ago, FCB said:

Lowy/Gallop out. They have no respect for the competition. Give football back to football people.

 

Get rid of the puppet master Gallop and football can get out of the media pleasers.

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Something this morning summed up Footballs position in the Australian media. ABC news breakfast mention the 0-0 draw of ccm, show two seconds of footage then they say well at least it wasn’t a 5 day draw like the test match but there is big bash on tonight and then proceed to bang on about a 6 week hit and giggle.

And this is the abc who don’t have a massive financial commitment to the other sports 

aus media ranges from complete disinterest to outright hostility we are always going to struggle for “mainstream” while that is the case

I don’t even think we should bother trying, they can keep their food container headwear and urinating on furniture 

Edited by StringerBellend

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Was at a pub in Narooma yesterday and the secco saw my Wanderers hoodie and immediately brought out the classic 'where are your flares lol?'

...which shows that it doesn't actually matter whether we've had any flares recently, if anything has happened in the crowd recently, because those with that stereotype of us will always stick to it, even if we cure cancer in the active section. So trying to appease non football fans by sanitising the match day experience is a pipe dream anyway. 

It's good to see the journos now saying what we've been saying for years, but I won't be holding my breath for the FFA to admit their mistakes and start the process of bringing active support back to what it used to be. 

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I like this section:

"

The move over the past few years to sanitise the match-day experience has not worked. 

The push to make grounds into giant adult day-care centres, with restrictions everywhere on what banners (if any) fans can bring, rules preventing them playing instruments or just behaving in a lively manner, has been counter-productive.

The game's rulers have been spooked too much by tabloid newspaper headlines and fears of what might occur rather than what has occurred.

How much better would the whole match-day experience be if clubs worked to fully harness the power of their most passionate fan base rather than see them as the enemy within.

The FFA has bent over backwards in the past decade to appeal to "newbies", AFL fans, NRL supporters and those who never cared about soccer.

It was worth a try, but it's not going to deliver the long-term growth that they hoped for.

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6 minutes ago, Unlimited said:

I like this section:

"

The move over the past few years to sanitise the match-day experience has not worked. 

The push to make grounds into giant adult day-care centres, with restrictions everywhere on what banners (if any) fans can bring, rules preventing them playing instruments or just behaving in a lively manner, has been counter-productive.

The game's rulers have been spooked too much by tabloid newspaper headlines and fears of what might occur rather than what has occurred.

How much better would the whole match-day experience be if clubs worked to fully harness the power of their most passionate fan base rather than see them as the enemy within.

The FFA has bent over backwards in the past decade to appeal to "newbies", AFL fans, NRL supporters and those who never cared about soccer.

It was worth a try, but it's not going to deliver the long-term growth that they hoped for.

"

Check out David Squires cartoons in the Guardian today as well

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35 minutes ago, Paul01 said:

Check out David Squires cartoons in the Guardian today as well

Thanks for the heads up...posted a link in the D S thread.

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The problem is that the FFA & A-League are a bunch of hypocrites. One minute they are promoting the football experience and then the next they are trying to stamp it out.

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3 hours ago, HillsPanther said:

The problem is that the FFA & A-League are a bunch of hypocrites. One minute they are promoting the football experience and then the next they are trying to stamp it out.

True.  They pay lip service to it. For some reason they are like a little kid seeking approval from their parents,  in this analogy,  the parents being free to air media.  They need to stop trying to appeal to 'everyone ' and concentrate on the thousands who already love our game. We'll never be as big as AFL or cricket in Oz but let's win over the football fans already out there. 

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in trying to cater for newbies, they've lost the fans who were already building the game. trouble is, the newbies were never interested.

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A major problem is that the majority of the public are too easily influenced by the media. If it is in the media, it must be true. Of course the media will never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

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😮😮😮 Gee never thought I would say this but this must be the first time I agree with Slater.

He had a passionate rant about the FFA (Just for kicks) and he completely correct.

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