Vedran Hands Sydney FC Derby Win

[StringerBellend]

2 hours ago, hawks2767 said:

The upside is Easts stink this season. A gifted derby win doesn't paper over their cracks they're on a slide and they know it.

 Theiir fans on the train home after a 3-1 win didn’t seem to mind 

 

 

[BoyFromTheWest]

Not that it changed the result, but the linesman on the dugout side of the ground was not especially good in the 2nd half.  We were seated near our goal end and he missed a few clear offsides, including in the play leading to the corner for their 3rd goal.  He missed crosses that swerved out over the byline and curled back in and was not particularly useful on indicating infringements.

The refereeing was not of a particularly high level for much of the game - the inconsistencies in decisions and the fact that Riera had someone constantly in his back of pulling him over and got not one free was pathetic. We don't need extra help to lose, we can manage it by ourselves quite nicely.  It all adds to the frustration.

[MartinTyler]

2 hours ago, Paul01 said:

RBB sounded great last night despite the result.

We were beaten by the team in in green as well as the smurfs. 

Saddened by ABJ being subbed for Nizic. I hope Vedran apologized.

Ziggler was immense as well as Rizzo keeping Ninkovic in his pocket for most of the game.

Clear errors by the match officials led to 2 goals. 

There was clearly a ball that was out from Sydney at the northern end that was given a corner. 

For the last goal, the smurfs should have been called offside before the corner.

Thought exactly the same myself !!

[Taurus]

4 hours ago, WHACKO said:

Why didn't we keep John Hall ?

He's just signed for an NPL3 club

[Zakman]

With all the praise for how great the RBB were last night, which I'm sure is warranted, it is mystifying how it never came through on TV. Only the Cove was heard. While I realise that its probably due to the positioning of microphones and Foxtel being worried about the Sydney FC dis chant coming through loud and clear on TV it is surprising that the RBB cannot be heard at least in background noise.

[mack]

1 minute ago, Zakman said:

With all the praise for how great the RBB were last night, which I'm sure is warranted, it is mystifying how it never came through on TV. Only the Cove was heard. While I realise that its probably due to the positioning of microphones and Foxtel being worried about the Sydney FC dis chant coming through loud and clear on TV it is surprising that the RBB cannot be heard at least in background noise.

Fox Sports did what they always do for derbies, they put a mic in front of the cove and turn the microphone up.

[mack]

5 hours ago, WHACKO said:

Why didn't we keep John Hall ?

We could have signed Birighitti (like I've wanted since before the club had it's name). Instead he's benchwarming at Melbourne City.

[Themumf]

It’s been said before, but my god we lack any kind of bottle. Soft as sht. Even with Vedran staying on, it’s pretty hard to imagine we would have toughed it out, and once he got sent it was curtains. So far away from how it was in the beginning. Just another gutless surrender in a long long list of gutless surrenders. 

[Redwog]

I think had this match occurred in isolation, the mood would be less dour. 

The boys were clearly on top. Working hard and showing good 'mentality'. Even after the send off, they had it under control. ESFC made nothing in open play and a typical clodhopping Sotirio moment let a shot on goal deflect onto Brosque's foot. 

But to say the boys didn't work hard or try is rubbish. To say Babbel threw it away with the ABJ sub, equally so. I get the debate, but there us no certainty ABJ would have helped us keep out the goals OR fashion the 3 (or more, knowing us) chances we needed to take something from the match.

I understand that the match is part of a long line of disappointment. Since the GF loss to Adelaide, without a home, we've been hard to support. At the same time smurfs have been nearly unstoppable. Last night should have been the one to change that, but a brain explosion from a member of a playing group who feel the immense pressure got in the way. 

Under Babbel, we'll turn the corner. It's already apparent if you look at the right things, and his two visa recruits have been stronger than any non-marquee visa pair we've picked up. I don't think going home fixes our problems, but we aren't as far away as it feels. 

 

 

[StringerBellend]

1 minute ago, Redwog said:

I think had this match occurred in isolation, the mood would be less dour. 

The boys were clearly on top. Working hard and showing good 'mentality'. Even after the send off, they had it under control. ESFC made nothing in open play and a typical clodhopping Sotirio moment let a shot on goal deflect onto Brosque's foot. 

But to say the boys didn't work hard or try is rubbish. To say Babbel threw it away with the ABJ sub, equally so. I get the debate, but there us no certainty ABJ would have helped us keep out the goals OR fashion the 3 (or more, knowing us) chances we needed to take something from the match.

I understand that the match is part of a long line of disappointment. Since the GF loss to Adelaide, without a home, we've been hard to support. At the same time smurfs have been nearly unstoppable. Last night should have been the one to change that, but a brain explosion from a member of a playing group who feel the immense pressure got in the way. 

Under Babbel, we'll turn the corner. It's already apparent if you look at the right things, and his two visa recruits have been stronger than any non-marquee visa pair we've picked up. I don't think going home fixes our problems, but we aren't as far away as it feels. 

 

 

Out squad isn’t good enough, it really is that simple. We may also laugh about Babbel’s use of “Mentality” but last night showed he’s spot on we are weak

[mack]

I don't think it would have mattered who we took off after the red card, and to do something other than the obvious removal of ABJ, AND still keeping a decent formation while a man down, would have required a double sub that takes off Riera for Roly, and the formation would have been something crazy like 4311.

[tardotz]

47 minutes ago, Zakman said:

With all the praise for how great the RBB were last night, which I'm sure is warranted, it is mystifying how it never came through on TV. Only the Cove was heard. While I realise that its probably due to the positioning of microphones and Foxtel being worried about the Sydney FC dis chant coming through loud and clear on TV it is surprising that the RBB cannot be heard at least in background noise.

And they are not worried about the western sydney dis chant?

[StringerBellend]

2 hours ago, mack said:

I don't think it would have mattered who we took off after the red card, and to do something other than the obvious removal of ABJ, AND still keeping a decent formation while a man down, would have required a double sub that takes off Riera for Roly, and the formation would have been something crazy like 4311.

Sadly I’m not even convinced we would have gone on with it, if Vedran had stayed on, we just would have found a different way to stuff it up 

(I’m not feeling very positive) 

Edited December 16, 2018 by StringerBellend

[Erebus]

8 hours ago, Xfactor said:

Also, 1994 World Cup, Italy v nigeria, Italy get a man sent off, coach immediately takes off probably the best player in the world at the time Roberto Baggio. Get over it. This game is 110% on Janjetovic 

Was against Norway in the group stage. But yes, I thought of this exact scenario when AB10 number came up.

Edit: to clarify for people. It was the Italian goalkeeper that got sent off for handball outside the box. So a very familiar situiation.

Edited December 16, 2018 by Erebus

[bombagol]

2 hours ago, StringerBellend said:

Out squad isn’t good enough, it really is that simple. We may also laugh about Babbel’s use of “Mentality” but last night showed he’s spot on we are weak

Saw a meme with a different team in it, but I easily substituted the Wanderers into it:

 

Santa says to the little kid sitting on his lap at the photo shoot: "What would you like for Christmas?"

Kid: "A unicorn!"

Santa: "Come on son, be realistic!"

Kid: "Wanderers to finish in the top four!"

Santa: "OK, what colour unicorn would you like?"

[DeeDee]

14 hours ago, Smoggy said:

Riera had already scored and is a CF target man.....you kind of traditionally leave a CF target man in the kinds of situations. That is not to say i agree with the decision by Babbel this time.....i think he was hoping that Kamau and Roly would break forwards and target Riera when possible.

Babbel did the traditional thing...but you have to take in to account the lack of quality in this team...where the engine in midfield is and could we take a hit like losing ABJ.......

I think we were ****ed either way...regardless of who he took off...this team doesn't have the kind of fight needed to hang in there in these kinds of situations.

This. Whatever the subsitution, the team needed to take on a siege mentality. We simply do not have it in us. And we dont have the mental strength to deal with adversity. If we come out flying, the team cam show they have the quality. But if we cop a goal they panic. And its simple, we need experience, and some winners. 2-3 of them.

[wendybr]

10 minutes ago, DeeDee said:

This. Whatever the subsitution, the team needed to take on a siege mentality. We simply do not have it in us. And we dont have the mental strength to deal with adversity. If we come out flying, the team cam show they have the quality. But if we cop a goal they panic. And its simple, we need experience, and some winners. 2-3 of them.

It doesn't help that, with the club's revolving door approach, the team members are still relatively new-ish to each other...compared to teams like the Victory and some others, where core players have played together/been team mates, and identified as members of THAT team for some years.

I imagine that sort of "siege mentality" and the "mental strength to cope with adversity" strengthens season by season.

[spectacular291]

15 hours ago, mack said:

Fox Sports did what they always do for derbies, they put a mic in front of the cove and turn the microphone up.

It was so bloody annoying too - all I could hear was some f***wit on a microphone that seemed to have more audible strength than Hill & Slater commentating. 

[sonar]

16 minutes ago, spectacular291 said:

It was so bloody annoying too - all I could hear was some f***wit on a microphone that seemed to have more audible strength than Hill & Slater commentating. 

There would be two main reasons for not mic-ing up the RBB, one is the eff off ESFC chant.....( while FOX is quite happy to allow swearing on a lot of it's shows it broadcasts the RBB swearing is a no no....not family friendly enough apparantly....lol........a lot of hypocrisy here)

The second is we are NOT their commentators favourites so we get nothing from them . 

Edited December 16, 2018 by sonar

[Erebus]

Its okay to have the camera in front of Aloisi and Muscat as they drop f-bombs at one another and the refs constantly though...

[teddies]

2 hours ago, spectacular291 said:

It was so bloody annoying too - all I could hear was some f***wit on a microphone that seemed to have more audible strength than Hill & Slater commentating. 

No, that was actually Slater.

[Hughesy]

4 hours ago, Erebus said:

Its okay to have the camera in front of Aloisi and Muscat as they drop f-bombs at one another and the refs constantly though...

The Aloisi brothers are a disgrace. They’re some of the poorest behaved coaches I’ve seen 

[Wobblies]

Must be time now to start  Wanderers Most Miserable Moments as they are rapidly adding up and overtaking Wanders favourite moments. Starting with last Saturday's debacle.

[Edinburgh]

3 hours ago, Ossified said:

Must be time now to start  Wanderers Most Miserable Moments as they are rapidly adding up and overtaking Wanders favourite moments. Starting with last Saturday's debacle.

Nah, they're too common, nothing special about them.

[Themumf]

1 hour ago, Edinburgh said:

Nah, they're too common, nothing special about them.

And plus the club is too busy trying to flog / give away tickets to a game against another team that used to be good (sorry Lloydy).

[tardotz]

Talking about giving away tickets......looks like ESFC gave a number of tickets away for the derby.

[MartinTyler]

On 17/12/2018 at 9:17 AM, sonar said:

There would be two main reasons for not mic-ing up the RBB, one is the eff off ESFC chant.....( while FOX is quite happy to allow swearing on a lot of it's shows it broadcasts the RBB swearing is a no no....not family friendly enough apparantly....lol........a lot of hypocrisy here)

The second is we are NOT their commentators favourites so we get nothing from them . 

I saw a story about the big Championship game between Derby and Forest earlier this week. it was live on SKY and whilst most of the chanting came through loud and clear from both sets of supporters, they have some mechanism to block chants with swearing in them due to regulations. Interestingly enough the offensive chant was aimed at SKY due to fans being pissed off with KO changes to suit TV requirements.

[hawks2767]

On 17/12/2018 at 2:16 PM, hughsey said:

The Aloisi brothers are a disgrace. They’re some of the poorest behaved coaches I’ve seen 

Prob still angry from having their hearts ripped out through their asses at Parramatta in April 2016

[MistahCampoy]

Seems like the mentality is strong in this one! Lets just hope Vedran does the same

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/baumjohann-at-peace-with-babbel-janjetovic-after-derby-disaster-20181218-p50n1q.html

 

[GunnerWanderer]

Reading between the lines I’d say he’s more than happy to stay around but he wants a squad that can compete